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Old 09-05-2010, 05:35 PM   #1
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Default "Stop resisting"
Both our countries need elected cops. I see no other way to eliminate police brutality other than dismantling the whole system and rebuilding it from the bottom up.
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Old 09-06-2010, 04:27 PM   #2
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Cops are stupid.
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Old 09-08-2010, 02:15 AM   #3
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"Don't twitch" is an order, too, so yeah, taze away.
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Old 09-08-2010, 02:44 AM   #4
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I do NOT have a temper!
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Old 09-08-2010, 02:52 AM   #5
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The police have the right to take in a citizen who might be suicidal!

Secondly, the subject was obviously acting in a manner that may have endangered the officers and the officers acted in an appropriate manner, by using less than lethal force(by using their taser) against a subject who was obviously resisting.
This is satire, right guys?
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Old 09-08-2010, 06:06 AM   #6
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This is satire, right guys?
If so, the groundwork is well-laid. It's right in line with bc's other posts.
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Old 09-08-2010, 06:37 AM   #7
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Yes, but only because attorneys are notorious for overestimating their chances for success. Sad thing is it's the more or less true part of what he posted (the first part) that makes me the most uncomfortable.
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Old 09-08-2010, 04:53 PM   #8
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In most states, though it is illegal for the police to arrest a subject for threatening/attempting to commit suicide, they may take in a subject for a psychological evaluation (on a 72hr hold), and unlike many other potential criminal acts, the officers do not need a warrant to enter a residence of an individual who has claimed that they are willing/wish to commit suicide.

The subject in a video claimed that he wished to kill himself, which therefore make the police responsible to investigate the subject’s claim. Now potentially the number of times the subject was tasered might be construed as excessive, though potentially the officers were also following their standard operating procedures as prescribed by their department.
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Old 09-08-2010, 09:43 PM   #9
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The dude probably shouldn't have cursed out the cops either.
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Old 09-08-2010, 11:35 PM   #10
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First off, it should be pointed out that the subject was already confrontational with the officers (as demonstrated by an obscene gesture made by the subject). Now any reasonable person is going to maintain their composure/bearing when speaking with another human being (regardless of their status in society), but it seems that from the start the subject instead decided to act in a confrontational manner. Now the officer on scene noticed that the subject was acting in a manner which may prove to be an officer safety issue, and acting in accordance with common sense, deployed a less than lethal weapon to defend himself.
Sorry, but only you think it is common sense to shoot someone with an electric current (no matter how non-lethal) because they hare using obscene gestures and nasty words. An officer is a public servant - with a duty to citizens, not just themselves.

Secondly, and though not officially stated in the article, it’s safe to assume that the paramedics called the police, following the subject’s commentary about wanting to kill himself. Now, though the subject claims that his comments were purely hyperbole, it should be noted that any and all threats of suicide are taken seriously, and treated as though the subject has intent to commit such actions.

Maybe the officers could try to talk the man out of trying to commit suicide, or hold off from tazering him until perhaps the man took any action that could be threatening to himself or anyone else.

Finally, in defense of the officer, had I been in his position I would have also used non-lethal force against the subject. The subject was obviously intoxicated, and his actions were becoming increasingly hostile. The officer, requested that the subject remain where he was, which he obviously refused. The officer, potentially fearing for his own life, and using the appropriate amount of force, preceded to taser the subject. Now had the officer used deadly force, then obviously he would have been wrong, and should face punishment accordingly, but since the officer used non-lethal force to resolve the situation, he should be credited for resolving the situation by using the most reasonable approach possible. There are many levels of non-lethal violence that are far lower than tazering someone.

You clearly are nothing but a total apologist for the officers. If you had been one of the hundreds of cops I interviewed when investigating complaints against the police in NYC, I would have found you guilty of excessive force in a second if you were either of these officers - of course, NYC does have a massive Patrol Guide, which has clear rules on using force. I doubt this police department has rules as developed. Hopefully this lawsuit wins, and that will force this department to create better rules regarding the use of Tazers.
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Old 09-09-2010, 04:54 AM   #11
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What happened to cops just grabbing a guy? I mean two cops couldn't restrain that old man?
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