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Old 07-20-2010, 03:09 PM   #1
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.... but it's not like it's news. She said nothing that isn't public knowledge.
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Old 07-20-2010, 03:18 PM   #2
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It's not possible to say "We told you so!" often enough to the people who supported the Iraq war though.
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Old 07-20-2010, 03:19 PM   #3
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plain in 2003?

Well here is George speking to the nation in October 2002... an excerpt... very plain to refresh memory

Iraq possesses ballistic missiles with a likely range of hundreds of miles -- far enough to strike Saudi Arabia, Israel, Turkey, and other nations -- in a region where more than 135,000 American civilians and service members live and work. We have also discovered through intelligence that Iraq has a growing fleet of manned and unmanned aerial vehicles that could be used to disperse chemical or biological weapons across broad areas. We are concerned that Iraq is exploring ways of using UAVs (unmanned aerial vehicles) for missions targeting the United States. And of course, sophisticated delivery systems are not required for a chemical or biological attack -- all that might be required are a small container and one terrorist or Iraqi intelligence operative to deliver it.

And that is the source of our urgent concern about Saddam Hussein's links to international terrorist groups. Over the years, Iraq has provided safe haven to terrorists such as Abu Nidal, whose terror organization carried out more than ninety terrorist attacks in twenty countries that killed or injured nearly 900 people, including 12 Americans. Iraq has also provided safe haven to Abu Abbas, who was responsible for seizing the Achille Lauro and killing an American passenger. And we know that Iraq is continuing to finance terror, and gives assistance to groups that use terrorism to undermine Middle East peace.

We know that Iraq and the al-Qaida terrorist network share a common enemy -- the United States of America. We know that Iraq and al-Qaida have had high-level contacts that go back a decade. Some al-Qaida leaders who fled Afghanistan went to Iraq.

These include one very senior al-Qaida leader who received medical treatment in Baghdad this year, and who has been associated with planning for chemical and biological attacks. We have learned that Iraq has trained al-Qaida members in bomb making, poisons, and deadly gases. And we know that after September 11th, Saddam Hussein's regime gleefully celebrated the terrorist attacks on America.

Iraq could decide on any given day to provide a biological or chemical weapon to a terrorist group or individual terrorists. Alliances with terrorists could allow the Iraqi regime to attack America without leaving any fingerprints.

Some have argued that confronting the threat from Iraq could detract from the war against terror. To the contrary, confronting the threat posed by Iraq is crucial to winning the war on terror. When I spoke to the Congress more than a year ago, I said that those who harbor terrorists are as guilty as the terrorists themselves. Saddam Hussein is harboring terrorists and the instruments of terror, the instruments of mass death and destruction. And he cannot be trusted. The risk is simply too great that he will use them, or provide them to a terror network.

that was easy to find... but the same rethoric was valid on this side of the Atlantic too... does this sound like the "threat" posed by Saddam was low to you? Where was Eliza Manningham-Buller than? Ahhh just appointed Director General (DG) of MI5, the British internal national security agency...
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Old 07-20-2010, 03:47 PM   #4
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That Hans Blix had failed to find weapons, that a Secular Dictator with a socialist nasser like past was better than a democratically elected islamist (at least for those who care about religious minorities like christians and the rights of women), that Saddam had nothing to do with 9/11, that shiias would try to get even with the sunnies was all quite obvious back in 2003, perhaps not in the USA, but it was around the world.

Americans ended up allied with their puppet state the UK, Aznar Spain and don't forget Poland. Most countries refused to help or support the USA in the Iraq war.

The international opinion was that the USA was going to invade Iraq no matter what, and that if they had to fake evidence or lie in order to do it, they would.

People who supported the Iraq war deserve to be trolled by the welsh poster MBS till they die of asphyxiation (caused by a dixie chick sitting on their face)
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Old 07-20-2010, 04:00 PM   #5
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I would like to see Sarah Palin apologize to Hans Blix and the Dixie Chicks in the name of all Republicans who supported the Iraq War
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Old 07-20-2010, 04:40 PM   #6
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I would like to see Sarah Palin apologize to Hans Blix and the Dixie Chicks in the name of all Republicans who supported the Iraq War
Why should anyone apologize to the Dixie Chicks when they got exactly what they wanted, an excuse to leave Country Music behind?
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Old 07-20-2010, 05:50 PM   #7
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I would like to see Sarah Palin apologize to Hans Blix and the Dixie Chicks in the name of all Republicans who supported the Iraq War
If my memory serves me correct, most of the Democrats voted early on to support it also.
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Old 07-20-2010, 06:16 PM   #8
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I, for one, am happy that the Iraq war has ended now that governments have changed in both the US and the UK
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Old 07-20-2010, 09:26 PM   #9
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Of course the majority of the current government also supported the war in Iraq. Its worth noting that the Liberal Democrat portion of the coalition did not support entering Iraq.
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Old 07-20-2010, 09:40 PM   #10
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It's not possible to say "We told you so!" often enough to the people who supported the Iraq war though. Especially when they opposed it in the first place...
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Old 07-20-2010, 11:34 PM   #11
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Why aren't we attacking NK and Iran?
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Old 07-22-2010, 04:16 AM   #12
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Do we doubt that zakubandit is an alien? Most people do. Does that mean that he is not? Hardly. Justification for this? There is always a possibility...see where the possibilities rest? Never say never.
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Old 07-22-2010, 05:47 AM   #13
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