[konanoileaski]

As long as you fall for it every time, I think it's a great strategy.

[Opperioav]

This letter is a pathetic pile of crap.

[adesseridopaw]

Originally posted by Proteus_MST


I assume with "West" you mean "USA", right? Actually, most of the mess was created by France and the UK, but then not having been invited to have colonies anywhere that mattered that might be lost in Germany.

[Ettiominiw]

But this time Europeans could be making right on past wrongs. The reason its such a mess in the ME is because of dictatorships the west propped up. Time to stop supporting the dictators. to Bush et al for at least taking out Saddam even if they are hypocritical about other dictatorships. I don't like Bush for a variety of reasons, but I can't criticise him for removing Saddam. I can only criticise him for removing Saddam before sending OBL and AQ off to their 72 virgins.

Btw, I always thought it peculiar a religion would portray itself as the ultimate in morality when their heavenly reward is 72 virgins. I've heard of thinking with your dicck but is that where they found their souls too?

[pavilionnotebook]

Spiffor: There have been numerous books written on the subject of appeasement during the run up to WW2 and most of them used the personal writtings of people in all the governments involved and/or interviewed the people involved. The conclusion reached time after time is that intially Hitler was afraid that the UK and France would come after him militarially if he kept breaking agreements and siezing territory. Slowly though Hitler realized that the British and French weren't going to stand up to him and Hitler believed he could keep demanding concessions. They caved on the reoccupation of the Rhineland, they caved on the annexation of Austria, they caved on the annexation of the Sudtenland (selling out their own ally), and they caved when Czechoslovakia was broken in two and Czechlands were annexed. Why would Hitler not think the Allies would cave again on the Danzieg corridor?

[esanamaserrn]

Why don't we host talks between israel and palestinia???
How about, the Israelis and Palestinians don't want us to?

(I'm getting exceedingly tired with the whole Israel/Palestine thing, BTW. Can't we just carpet bomb the place and hand over the ruins to Syria? They could grow dates there or something.)

[favwebbb]

why have conservatives done a 360 from when Clinton was prez. Back then, they said 'no nation building' etc, now you guys cant wait to go overseas. do you not understand that you have no principles and you swallow everything that the current group in power gives to you. they lead you by the nose like an ox and you meekly submit, without thinking or questioning.

[dodsCooggipsedebt]

It was probably translated wrong in international news anyway

[Teligacio]

Well, it's plastered all over Google news. (If the question is whether this is a real Op-Ed or not).

[scoussysows]

However, the world that they would have us believe in is not a nice world. Why should we believe in it Interesting, rejecting the notion the world isn't a nice place because that scares you. Well done.

After all, Americans had done such a good job of sorting out the problems of Somalia the last time they were there. Ha, do you remember why Somalia started in the first place? Hint, it was you worshiped U.N. So even when we go somewhere after following all the preceps you arbitarily apply to us you STILL fail to antie up.

Anyone want to mention the force ratios for Kosovo? I didn't think so.

Perhaps all American operations fail in your eyes because your tenets of multilateralism are right. Not that we would ever know because you fail to follow your preaching every time you have a chance to participate in something and prove it.

[Virosponna]

I for one wish Europe would get out of this "phase" it is going through. I think its pacifism is related to being too long protected by others. If it really could no longer count on the United States, Europe would begin behaving in a much more responsible fashion.

[imawlBoli]

to muslim holiday.

If christmas is a holiday, then ramadan should be.

[noingenah]

Originally posted by notyoueither
If it were written by a Euro, it is good to know they are not all good little autobots under Spiffor's control. And that's not for lack of trying

[11Woxsepmoomo]

Originally posted by Admiral
... Rather, if instead of propogating violence with violence, we seek to address the conditions that make violence inevitable, we can live in a better world. Nobel thought there. I assume you are in favor, then, of spreading democracy and freedom where tyranny now reign?

[mitiaycatq]

Originally posted by Proteus_MST
AFAIR it where the USA who supported Saddam during the 80s and who trained and equipped the Taliban (and Osama bin Laden) to counter the sowjet occupation of Afghanistan. True, but much of the mess is the ME has older roots than that, with France and Britain dividing the territory and playing Risk in 1918. Pretty much all the territorial disputes in the ME since then (and there have been quite a few) can be traced directly to the colonial powers.

[StanWatts]

Originally posted by Patroklos
Bargaining with parties currently engaging in blatent genocide = appeasment. But going to war on the behalf of ethnic cleansers is okay?

[Bugamerka]

Originally posted by BeBro
Yes, but not necessarily through war. BeBro, at time war is necessary. I think that is one of Dophner's points. Categorically rulling out war makes diplomacy ineffective.

[TimoDass]

Originally posted by notyoueither

But was it written by a prominent German, or is it a hoax? I'd like to know.

There are parts that read as if it were written by a Yank on a rant, and then there's things I wouldn't expect a Yank to bring up.

If it were written by a Euro, it is good to know they are not all good little autobots under Spiffor's control. Hi Spiff. Love you. Henryk M. Broder, well,
he is an author, who writes books and editorials.

He is seen as very controversial and well known to criticize everyone and everything around

Is he a prominent german?
Well known among intellectuals in germany I think,
but well known as someone whose opinion you should take with a grain of salt

[Flieteewell]

Whether or not it was actually written by who it is acredited too, it is a typically hardline conservative rant. They insist in believing that they are locked in a struggle for their very survival, an epic battle between good and evil, where there can be no compromise, where there can be no negotiating. Ironically, the more they base their policy upon this world-view, the more true their worldview becomes.
However, the world that they would have us believe in is not a nice world. Why should we believe in it, and by believing in it, make it so? Rather, if instead of propogating violence with violence, we seek to address the conditions that make violence inevitable, we can live in a better world.

[Knongargoapex]

Originally posted by Dissident
to muslim holiday.

If christmas is a holiday, then ramadan should be. You do realize that Ramadan is an entire month?

Ban Xmas