[goatteatromiag]

"You lie!" is not a valid legal argument. Who's saying he's lying? We need proof to back up their claims, proof that's been deliberately withheld.

[Cemeuncex]

No, all that matters for natural born status is that he was born in the united states. If he's not born in the US, he's not natural born.

False.

John McCain was born in the Panama Canal Zone, not in the United States. There was no debate over him.

[derinasderun]

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[aabbaDE]

John McCain was born in the Panama Canal Zone, not in the United States. There was no debate over him. 1. The same liberals who claim it's racist and call you a 'birther' for questioning Obama's credentials questioned whether McCain counted.

2. McCain was born of two american citizens in the Canal Zone, which was American Territory at the time of his birth.

[popillio]

It's not up to the republican party to do anything. The democrats have to provide proof that the affidavits they swore are in fact true. All Obama has to do is release the sealed copy of his BC, and all this goes away. He's spent more than a million dollars keeping it sealed. Why?

Neither the repubs nor he dems need do anything. All that needs be done is certain wackos come back to reality or we can continue to ignore them. That is all. Deal with it.

[Sthjrderfida]

If everyone used condoms all the time, global warming would be solved.
Crime rates would also fall
But I'm afraind it wouldn't help the recession since global GDP would fall to an unprecedented low

[Tjfyojlg]

yeah, but that's what makes this place so much fun, sloww.

[stastony]

actually, statistics show that poor people have more kids than rich people. look at the latino population explosion over the last twenty years.

[c6vkuNRg]

Condoms would cause a reduction in the crime rate in the years ahead, because the ghetto dweller population would be reduced, but this is about global warming.

They did a study on this a few years back. It was mostly on abortion but included contraception also, and concluded that the crime rate was reduced due to both.

[nmnrIjGB]

It's irrelevant where he was born, America needs a good leader badly, now that you have one, stfu and smile.

[fkjghfg]

Wait. Just checking into the thread for shits and giggles.

Is BK starting up that complete batshit birther nonsense again? Christ on a crutch, could zakipoo actually be his DL?

[Cersdog]

There's this thing called a 'constitution.'

Please, tell me where the Constitution defines "natural born citizen". I'll wait as you figure you can't find it.

[Diondra]

dp

[hhynmtrxcp]

I'll reiterate, Sloww..

Please, tell me where the Constitution defines "natural born citizen". I'll wait as you figure you can't find it.

Emphasis added.

[corolaelwis]

Sloww, Clause 5 uses the term "natural born citizen" but does not define it.

[Loolasant]

Btw, in addition, US State Department states:

Despite widespread popular belief, U.S. military installations abroad and U.S. diplomatic or consular facilities are not part of the United States within the meaning of the 14th Amendment. A child born on the premises of such a facility is not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States and does not acquire U.S. citizenship by reason of birth.

So McCain, born in the Panama Canal Zone was not born in the United States. He's a "natural born citizen" because his parents were Americans when he was born "overseas".

[DuesTyr]

The intent is clear?! Obviously not if we have debates over what it means in the context of President Obama or Senator McCain.

In addition:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_born_citizen

Since there was no definition of "natural born citizen" found in the constitution, the majority adopted the common law of England that was a carry over from feudal times.

Ie, I win again. Enjoy the pwnage.