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girlsround 02-18-2009 08:14 PM

Case study in Republican insanity: California to go belly-up?
 
We're quite a long way into the Twilight Zone already.

I guess you have to laugh. Maybe Kidicious will have to get a job, and stop hitting on his alcoholic bipolar neighbours.

edit: I guess he'll have a lot more to choose from, since I heard that a bunch of prisoners will have to be let out, because the state can't afford to keep them in gaol.

This is ****wittery of epic proportions.

johnbeller 02-18-2009 08:22 PM

or get this. They do what my state does and cut the state budget enough to create a balanced budget. http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...ilies/idea.gif

don't tell me a state as big as Cali doesn't have plenty of pork to cut.

ppfpooghn 02-18-2009 08:27 PM

NV doesn't have rules that prevent tax increases absent a 2/3 majority.

And yeah, for some reason I doubt that 30% of a state budget is useless "pork."

bomondus 02-18-2009 08:28 PM

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education. That's what my state is cutting.
OK. Then the future taxpayers of California will be that much stupider.

tomsmuidh 02-18-2009 08:39 PM

It looks like if the Dems can't convince another Republican to join them, they'll have to start over.

Yfclciak 02-18-2009 08:49 PM

California's problem is that they have to fund some of that pork because the people voted for it to be funded. They can only cut some things, and they can't raise taxes at all.

It's pretty obvious they need to either lose the binding referendums or the super-majority for budgets rule.

Sydneyfonzi 02-18-2009 08:54 PM

ftfy.

twinaircant 02-18-2009 08:58 PM

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Look at what they've cut already. If they are going to let prisoners out, what more do you think there is to cut?
QFT. I can't wait to see taxpayers start complaining (in the press or even in court) about their daughters getting raped and their sons getting shot because prisoners got set loose early, only for the sane to respond "you were the cheap bastards that refused to pay for locking them up, and you got what you paid for!" http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...milies/lol.gif

Of course, when a halt in various entitlement checks results in massive riots and looting, the response too the lootees can be the same. This is what you wanted. You did this.

Texdolley 02-18-2009 09:09 PM

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QFT. I can't wait to see taxpayers start complaining (in the press or even in court) about their daughters getting raped and their sons getting shot because prisoners got set loose early, only for the sane to respond "you were the cheap bastards that refused to pay for locking them up, and you got what you paid for!" http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...milies/lol.gif

Of course, when a halt in various entitlement checks results in massive riots and looting, the response too the lootees can be the same. This is what you wanted. You did this.
I just don't want those prisoners heading my way. We have gotten so much crime from California. In fact, I blame all of our crime on California http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...ies/tongue.gif. Back in the day we only had mob killings. Then the California gangs moved in...

RilmAlime67 02-18-2009 09:40 PM

Half of those prisoners shouldn't be locked up in the first place. So yea, let those non-violent offenders go. Good for the budget, good for the state. http://www.discussworldissues.com/im...ons/icon14.gif

horoshevapola 02-18-2009 10:22 PM

They're laying off 20,000 people this week. That's not enough cuts for you?

gamecasta 02-18-2009 10:31 PM

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This shows direct democracy doesn't work. http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...s/neeschud.gif Up with republicanism. http://www.discussworldissues.com/im...ons/icon14.gif
Direct democracy works fine as long as you have an educated public. Direct democracy plus private financing means that really bad policies that favor the rich get passed.

Gudronich 02-18-2009 10:37 PM

No, what percentage of the state workforce is that?

8.36%
http://www.sco.ca.gov/ppsd/empinfo/demo/index.shtml

Amoniustauns 02-18-2009 10:45 PM

http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...milies/lol.gif
What do you base this 20%+ number on?

MannyLopez 02-18-2009 10:51 PM

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Direct democracy works fine as long as you have an educated public.
You have quite an imagination!

iiilizium 02-18-2009 10:55 PM

He himself included ?

Nutpoode 02-18-2009 11:22 PM

Thue's got a point...

-Arrian

Mboxmaja 02-18-2009 11:30 PM

What do you base this 20%+ number on? My personal knowedge of how many government emloyees I could eliminate from my department and still get the work done. In the case of California, a reasonable expectation of organizational loss for money saving purposes without overwhelming those left with change.

I could actually eliminate many more, but baby steps http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...es/biggrin.gif

His irrational hate of the government and everyone that works for it. Its broken, so fix it.

And yes I include the military in those cuts, primarily the officer corps actually.

GetsTan 02-18-2009 11:45 PM

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1) he had admitted his crime, so there is not that much doubt
So in some cases it's okay to punish someone before they've been convicted?

2) note that $1 million worth of stuff was actually almost disappeared And so presumably they took steps to make sure that doesn't almost happen again. None of which necessitates sending him to jail.

DoctorBeny 02-19-2009 12:03 AM

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And so presumably they took steps to make sure that doesn't almost happen again. None of which necessitates sending him to jail.
If you punish someone who does something bad [like trying to secret monies after being released from jail because of a promise not to], then the bad behavior tends to not be repeated.


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