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Old 08-28-2008, 12:01 PM   #1
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Old 08-28-2008, 12:05 PM   #2
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"The few remaining European colonies are left without their masters. Do they proclaim indepedance or do the Falkland Islands claim they are the British government and claim the British isles? Do other Commonwealth countries? Does French Guiane claim to be France? ect."

I'm wondering where we set up the German ....uh...exile gov. Maybe it's time to hand out passports worldwide
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Old 08-28-2008, 12:12 PM   #3
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We are nice guys now. We even sell our beer!
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Old 08-28-2008, 12:21 PM   #4
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I see more like a race between different countries to (re)claim the land.
Marroco, claiming Spain for himself, invoking the Moorish times.
USA/Canada claiming Ireland, British Isles and maybe France, invoking European ancestry and fallen soldiers in WWI & II fields.
Turkey claiming south east of Europe, maybe up to Austria and South Germany, invoking the Ottoman period.
The Algerian, Tunisians, Lybians, claiming Italy and mediteranean islands for no reason except proximity.

I see those countries rushing to establish outposts on the coast first, then slowly conquering/colonising the inner land.
I see a competion between farther away, but technologically more advanced USA and closer Islamic countries.
I see a hard bargain/war between USA and Marroco/Algeria for Spain and French mediteranean coast.
I see a hard time for Siberian tribes to colonise the European part of Russia, making it easy for USA/Canada to set foot in Scandinavia.
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Old 08-28-2008, 12:58 PM   #5
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Siberia has a population of 42.2 million people, also Russia has some of the worst demographic trends in the world. I can't imagine Russians keeping that much land. China might actually get away with just annexing Siberia and then using the transsiberian railroad to colonize eastern Europe.


Also why would the US have a claim in Europe at all? I would imagine Commonwealth countries having a claim in Britain maybe Ireland.


Also everyone is focusing on the recolonisation of Europe, what about power shifts? The US is basically left with no allies but Japan and Israel (Australia and Canada are nearly irelevant).

Russia is super weak, to the point of being a no power.


Also I would imagine Muslim countries get most of mainald Europe, the stream of African and Middle Eastern immigrants would be constant.


Again the unexplained factor of Europe's disappearance might lead the Muslims to believe that this is Allah's hint that its time to defeat the infidels. What would be Israels situation?
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Old 08-28-2008, 01:45 PM   #6
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I envision a nuclear war. A lot of our launch sites are in Siberia, and if European Russia is gone, they'll retaliate against the US (who else could've done that?) and China to keep them out.

Also, Georgia will take back SO.
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Old 08-28-2008, 03:39 PM   #7
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Originally posted by Heraclitus
[Also why would the US have a claim in Europe at all? I would imagine Commonwealth countries having a claim in Britain maybe Ireland. Because in a strange situation such as this, Might makes Right.
Who's gunna stop them? Why do they need a legitimate 'claim'?

The land is there. They know it is good and useful land. Hell, anybody that DOESN'T try to take some is wasting an oppertunity.
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Old 08-28-2008, 06:46 PM   #8
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I imagine China would immediately annex Siberia.
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Old 08-28-2008, 07:38 PM   #9
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Do US bases move out of the region? if not then it becomes ours. If so it is probably still ours if for no other reason then we want those bases.
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Old 08-28-2008, 11:16 PM   #10
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Grimsby and Slough would be gone!

Yay!
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Old 08-29-2008, 03:34 AM   #11
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No Europe = Middle Eastern rulers would own the world. All of America, all of South America, all of Asia, all of Africa and all of Pacifica. Everything.

What the world would be like I can't tell, it would either be ****ing incredible, or ****ing terrible.
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Old 08-29-2008, 04:00 AM   #12
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We wouldnt have to rescue France from gettin its @zz waxed
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Old 08-30-2008, 12:25 AM   #13
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Are there any Germans left in Namibia?
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Old 08-30-2008, 12:36 PM   #14
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Moving into and re-populating a completely pristine area the size of Europe would take several decades, roads, ports, farms and whole cities would need to be built with materials moved in from huge distances. Only a major industrial power could accomplish that and the US is the best positioned power to do that. The states of the middle east and north Africa couldn't do more then create toe-holds and could easily be denied that if the US Navy blockaded them. Turkey's land connection would allow them to by pass this restriction though. Of course the political developments are so totally unpredictable that anything could happen from total cooperation to total anarchy.
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Old 08-30-2008, 01:20 PM   #15
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Nobody can project significant forces in the other's home lands without outside help, so it will be another boring sitzkrieg
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Old 08-30-2008, 03:18 PM   #16
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eternal german slavophobia
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Old 08-30-2008, 05:10 PM   #17
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Originally posted by onodera
Last time we checked, you couldn't beat a bunch of Shia irregulars armed only with rifles. Oh, please. The US can't pacify Iraq either, but I sure wouldn't want to be on the receiving end of a Shock and Awe operation. We're talking about two regular armies solving their differences in the old-fashioned way here, not about guerrilla warfare.
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