[Alex]

No,

The American public voted for the Republican dominated government. it's what they wanted. Now, they have a chance to vote them out. The public chose their poison and they are living with it. They might do it again. Buyer beware.

[KuevDulin]

Punished electorally? McCain may win. The Democrats will probably lose a couple House seats due to their getting jack done these past two years. Most of the moderate/conservative Democrats who won seats in '06 have nada to take back to their districts.

The Democrats had the election served to them on a platter and managed to throw away the momentum of the '06 mid-terms. If anything the Republicans may be rewarded for the efforts of a few members of Congress who continually try and shine a light on the Democratic circus in Washington.

[insoneeri]

So, what you mean is that the eight years of Bush will not matter at all, and that people will look at the congress performances since 2006?

I don't think so.

[GaryBulguihb]

Unfortunately for you, what you think doesn't count.

[artofeyyy]

Originally posted by Barnabas
This is basically what I believe in



I believe the arrows will continue pointing down if McCain wins.

If I hated the USA I would want him to win.

I think someone has to clean Bush's mess before another gobernment is able to **** up everything again. No argument here. That cartoon is the truth.

[Keendwainge]

Originally posted by Barnabas
He [Obama] is a conservative too.

[Infellgedq]

Clinton was just like the Republicans except military spending was cut and tax collection increased. If Obama raises taxes and gets us out of the war he'll be just like Clinton. If he doesn't say hello to more deficits.

[prmnwoks]

McCain is going to win. I'll take bets to that effect. And I'm not voting for him.

[Juersdodfs]

Originally posted by Barnabas
This is basically what I believe in



I believe the arrows will continue pointing down if McCain wins.

If I hated the USA I would want him to win.

I think someone has to clean Bush's mess before another gobernment is able to **** up everything again.
Nice how that doesnt begin with the worst president of the century, Jimmy Carter.

[corolaelwis]

Originally posted by faded glory
Nice how that doesnt begin with the worst president of the century, Jimmy Carter. Actually his deficit was stable, at least relatively:



Whether McCain could actually deliver on the promises Reagan and Bush I-II made remains to be seen, but at least his Senate record wrt earmarks/local pork is stronger than the... well... nothing the other three had to back up their promises. Even what two had done as state governors wasn't all that relevant when states can't borrow as frantically as the federal government can/does.

Anyway, what's truly ridiculous about that cartoon is that there was a staunchly Republican Congress for 6 of Clinton's 8 years, so we never got a chance to see where so-called "tax-and-spend" tendencies would have taken us. The very gridlock between both branches probably had more to do with ending the deficit than any specific policies. With Obama and a Democratic Congress we just might find out what Clinton might have done.

[courlerwele]

Truth in advertising.

You get surpluses if you raise the taxes.

How brilliant is it to double taxation levels and balance a budget.

[aideriimibion]

By what used to pass as conservative yes, a lunatic far-right neocon, no. wtf?

How is Obama in any way a conservative? He's a hardcore liberal, one of the most hardcore in the entire dem list.

[jojocomok]

Originally posted by Oerdin
Jesus Christ. It is Democratic. You have been listening to so much Limbaugh it has rotted your brain and you can't even get the name of the party right. I'm not sure what the sensitivity is about. I tend to say Democrat as the adjectival form because "democratic" to me means "pertaining/related to or characteristic of a democracy, or democracies in general." To avoid confusion I tend to automatically refer to "the democrat candidate," without even thinking about it, and I've never listened to Limbaugh in my life. I'm sure he says the word like it's an insult, but I understand that he says everything like it's an insult.

The GOP avoids this problem because
A. We think of our government as a democracy, the word "republic," like the Republican party itself, having become old-fashioned, and
B. An individual candidate or person of right-wing leanings is a "Republican," not a "Republic." McCain is a Republican as well as the Republican presidential candidate, whereas Obama, a Democrat, is the Democratic candidate. Just saying Democrat in both instances is a mental shortcut, not a slur.

[Acrogeokickic]

Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
Can you name any of the DOJ and justice appointments made by Bush that were unqualified for the job? Miers! Got in first!

[enlinnyGoob]

Originally posted by Darius871


Anyway, what's truly ridiculous about that cartoon is that there was a staunchly Republican Congress for 6 of Clinton's 8 years, so we never got a chance to see where so-called "tax-and-spend" tendencies would have taken us. The very gridlock between both branches probably had more to do with ending the deficit than any specific policies. With Obama and a Democratic Congress we just might find out what Clinton might have done.
Well, from 2002 to 2006 we had a completely "Fiscally conservative" Republican government, and the chart shows what happened then.

[OpVJokl8]

Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
I would have voted for Gore in 2000, and was pleasently surprised by Bush, and would have voted for Bush in 2004.

Maybe you weren't happy with Bush, but then you never would have voted for him, so why are you speaking for those who voted for him in 2000, and 2004? B/c I know people who did vote for him and now are pissed. Also, despite the judicial coup-de-etat that handed the presidency over to Bush (and let's not quibble on this point, b/c we all know that's what happened), I was willing, albeit grudgingly, to give him a chance. Hell I even went so far as to say that maybe the admin knew something about the direction the ME states were heading and the need for some kind of intevention was necessary, that they really did the right thing but couldn't tell anyone. Sad to say even that lame excuse didn't pan out.

When will the dems stop their obstruction of the courts? There are a record number of unfilled judicial nominees, which are being held over because of ideological reasons. Perfectly qualified nominees are being held over because they are not the 'right' nominees for the dems.

Eh? The dems are less obstructive than the repugs were under Clinton. And the reason they're holding up those positions for ideological reasons is b/c those candidates are too ideological to safely say they'd uphold the Constitution over their own personal agendas.

Can you name any of the DOJ and justice appointments made by Bush that were unqualified for the job?

Elok beat me. But I'm sure if I google it I'll find some more.

Unlike Pelosi et al? I'm sorry, the Dems have control of the congress and they still can't get anything done. Don't blame the republicans, for the failure of the Dems.

B/c of the threats of filibusters and prez vetos?

Such as raising taxes like Clinton? I don't see sane fiscal policy coming from Congress.

Job growth, low unemployment, govt surplus? I'll take that any day over what we have now, thanks. A lot saner by far.

IOW, if they become a clone of the dems then you would be approving.

Actually I wouldn't. But the FACT is this is the most anti-democratic, most authoritarian, least tolerant, and most abusive of power of any presidency we've ever had. And they're getting away with it, b/c people like you don't care on account of Bush et al. is "one of your own".

[66paptroump]

Miers! Got in first! Which was scuttled by Conservative backlash.



If Miers is the best you got, that's pretty sad.

[Pedsshuth]

Originally posted by Guynemer
McCain is going to win. I'll take bets to that effect. And I'm not voting for him. Let's see if Obama can start polling in the 50%+ range. If I were a Dem, I would be worried that with so much exposure, Obama is still polling sub-50%.

[ChuttyAmult]

Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
Truth in advertising.

You get surpluses if you raise the taxes.

How brilliant is it to double taxation levels and balance a budget. Actually the timing and the details of the tax increase/decrease are very important. It's not a simple matter of just collecting more taxes.

[fkisjjdhh]

He's saying that 30 years ago, Obama would be considered conservative, but in today's environment, old-style conservatism is considered liberal, while out and out reactionary politics is what now passes for conservative.