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Old 08-20-2008, 10:56 PM   #21
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I see you missed the point completely. No Asher, I totally got it and drowned it. Being a deformed runt quadriplegic of a point it was very easy.

How many years did you? How astute of you! Who here wants to comment on each of our relative knowledge between myself and Asher on what an actual Marine does?

Have you ever worked with a Marine in any capacity Asher? Observed one at work? Anything at all?

**** off with this kind of stall tactic, it pisses me off. Deal with the meat of the argument. Use that intelligence of yours that you've honed swabbing the deck of a rusty ship in the middle of nowhere. You have no argument. You are basically falling into the same hole you trapped Gepap in earlier, which is weird.

I obviously don't know civilian marine intel officers -- what I said was they have equivalent intellectual requirements to those in the civilian world. 1.) Not relevant.

2.) Why are you only listing intellectual requirements? Are Olympic swimmers not elite?

That is NOT A WORD. A common mistake by common people who are NOT ELITE. Did I claim I was elite?

Now you're reframing the argument. If this is about being "elite in the field", then every field ever is elite. That's a stunningly insightful commentary from our intellectual Navy comrade. No Asher, the just means every field where it is possible to meaningfully differentiate yourself from your peers has elites within it.
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Old 08-20-2008, 11:00 PM   #22
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Originally posted by Patroklos
No Asher, I totally got it and drowned it. Being a deformed runt quadriplegic of a point it was very easy.

How astute of you! Who here wants to comment on each of our relative knowledge between myself and Asher on what an actual Marine does?

Have you ever worked with a Marine in any capacity Asher? Observed one at work? Anything at all? I love how you're dumb enough to think pretending that none of us understand the intellectual hardships of the marines will work. Yes, the Marines are the intellectual elite of the world. Joining the marines makes you elite. You're so right. A winner is you.

You have no argument. You are basically falling into the same whole you trapped Gepap in earlier, which is weird. Actually, you are. I take issue with the comment that joining the marines makes you elite, and here you are defending it just like GePap defended his elite status.


1.) Not relevant. It's the whole point. You seem to forget the premise of this argument was the comment by your comrade-in-arms that you should join the marines to become elite. So to illustrate that you can become more elite in every way outside of the marine corps is not only relevant, it's a counter-argument that you've yet to comprehend.

2.) Why are you only listing intellectual requirements? Are Olympic swimmers not elite? They are. But marines are not Olympic swimmers.

Did I claim I was elite? You are defending the claim that joining the marines makes you elite. Think about that.

No Asher, the just means every field where it is possible to meaningfully differentiate yourself from your peers has elites within it. Yes. Precisely.

Now that you've discovered this, relate this back to the comment in question which was one should join the marines to become elite. Are all marines elite? That's what I'm contesting. I'm making the case that the job requirements and everyday actions by the marines do not make them elite. I never said there was never any elite marines, just that not all marines are elite.

This is basic logic stuff that any intelligent person should know.
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Old 08-20-2008, 11:07 PM   #23
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Originally posted by ramseya


There's a lot of former Marines who had great careers... how about Jon Corzine, former Chairman and CEO of Goldman Sachs, former US Senator, and current Governor of New Jersey? Do you want me to make a list of non-marines who've had great careers or do you concede that this is not the best argument you've made?
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Old 08-20-2008, 11:09 PM   #24
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Yes Asher, conversing with you is like speaking to a child.

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Old 08-20-2008, 11:21 PM   #25
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Originally posted by ramseya
Asher:

I was just pointing out that it is hardly a bad career move, especially if you leverage that experience for grad school.

The point is that, according to the original definition of elite, posted by anessham I didn't read his post, and neither should you. Ever. His posts are evil.
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