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Old 08-18-2008, 07:52 PM   #1
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It's always something. USA can't do anything right. That's why we don't care. Well, Texans don't care. Some may, we don't.
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Old 08-18-2008, 08:09 PM   #2
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Old 08-18-2008, 08:16 PM   #3
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Old 08-18-2008, 08:18 PM   #4
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Originally posted by Kontiki
I'm not sure that's exclusively an American thing, and ranking based purely on gold medals seems kinda silly too. I mean, who had a better Olympics: a country that won a silver in every event or one that one a single gold medal and nothing else? They should really be ranked on a points system (x points for gold, y for silver, z for bronze) +1... I'd say 3/2/1, or 5/3/1, I suppose. To me, silver is quite a good achievement, as is bronze; so 3/2/1 seems reasonable. Having the 2nd fastest person in the world from your country seems like something you should care about...

Also, we should rank the events. Basketball gets X5 points, for example, as does football, while Mens Indoor Archery With Hats With Pointy Ears should get X0.005 points. Etcetera.
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Old 08-18-2008, 08:20 PM   #5
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If you have 6 athletes in the Olympics and 1 wins Bronze, relativity says they did damn well. All the scenarios, all the ways of tracking. Total medals. Color of medal. Medals vs. athletes. If you spent the money to send 250 athletes and you get a Bronze only, that doesn't tie the nation that sent 6 athletes, or it shouldn't.
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Old 08-18-2008, 08:30 PM   #6
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I haven't been watching the Olympics, so I have no idea what you're talking about.
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Old 08-18-2008, 08:32 PM   #7
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Medals per capita or medals per athlete.

Jamaica FTW!
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Old 08-18-2008, 08:38 PM   #8
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Originally posted by Krill


Yup, care to come up with a few fair values? 3/2/1? 4/2/1? π/e/i? Medal rankings have been based on the amount of gold medals and deciding tie-breakers by silver medals as long as I have lived
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Old 08-18-2008, 09:50 PM   #9
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MGDP= Medal count per GDP

seeing as some of these sports require ample capital contributions in order to become competitive

or

Au%GDP Gold Medal Count per % of total Medal Count won by the country per GDP

sort of normalizing towards how successful you are at converting your investment into successful medals; efficiency

or, even better,

Au%PERCAPGDP = Au%GDP/population

This way you can gauge the potential talent pool of the country in relationship to it's ability to field gold medalist.

I find it interesting that Jamaica is not really a contender in rowing or swimming, but is great at running. While Serbia and other countries not noted for great beaches or water do well in these events.

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Old 08-18-2008, 10:18 PM   #10
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NBC's coverage of the Olympics is hugely US biased. It is to the point where it actually bothers me, but I will give them this, their overall coverage seems a lot better this year than 4 ago.

China is owning these games, the US is still clinging to the fact that it is #1.
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Old 08-19-2008, 12:29 AM   #11
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Originally posted by DanS
As alluded to above, the US is doing about the same as 4 years ago. China's taking the medals from the likes of Russia. Uh oh. Russia doesn't like it when another country has something that Russia believes belongs to her.
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Old 08-19-2008, 12:53 AM   #12
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Originally posted by Japher
MGDP= Medal count per GDP

seeing as some of these sports require ample capital contributions in order to become competitive

or

Au%GDP Gold Medal Count per % of total Medal Count won by the country per GDP

sort of normalizing towards how successful you are at converting your investment into successful medals; efficiency

or, even better,

Au%PERCAPGDP = Au%GDP/population

This way you can gauge the potential talent pool of the country in relationship to it's ability to field gold medalist.
Some guy adjusted the medals in Athens 2004 for both population and GDP: http://tianmi.info/blogge/posts/08/0...medaljrakning/

It's in Swedish, but the rankings should be obvious. Most importantly, by this way Georgia is ranked 3rd and Russia is ranked 23rd
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Old 08-19-2008, 01:07 AM   #13
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Originally posted by Aeson
I enjoy watching the Olympics (that being the actual events). The medal count stuff is just a waste of time, and it's rather sad that people care about it at all. QFT ... (though my event-watching enjoyment varies by my boredom level)
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Old 08-19-2008, 01:13 AM   #14
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Originally posted by SlowwHand
It's always something. USA can't do anything right. That's why we don't care. Well, Texans don't care. Some may, we don't. I just posted to say that I don't care either.
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Old 08-19-2008, 05:04 AM   #15
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They all are, but NBC's is just above and beyond.
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Old 08-19-2008, 05:29 AM   #16
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Originally posted by Asher
They all are, but NBC's is just above and beyond. What events i have watched on NBC-mostly swimming events involving Mr Eight and beach volleyball-didnt seem over the line to me

actually its on now in the other room, some track events. Im guessing the announcers talking mostly about the americans is what you mean by biased?
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Old 08-20-2008, 12:58 AM   #17
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