[eduptultyt]

Originally posted by Winston
I thought Fidel Castro croaked it.

Take your wet dreams elsewhere.

[werkeeque]

I'm still waiting for Bush to disband the Senate and rule through the governors

[Kk21pwa9]

Originally posted by Sprayber
I'm still waiting for Bush to disband the Senate and rule through the governors I was about to respond seriously to this.

[Gaiaakgyyyg]

Originally posted by DirtyMartini


Yeah, it's an empty victory, as stated later in the article:

1) the appeal will push it back until the subpoena expires
(2) the decision says nothing regarding claiming executive privilege and refusing to answer questions at the hearing, it just says she/they must respecte the subpoena and appear for the hearing. The issue is setting precedents for later courts, so that future administrations' can't play this same game.

[ordercigsnick]

I don't share your pessimism in this regard. What is important is the question of whether Presidents can claim some sort of privilage for their aides has gotten at least a first answer and it was one against aggrandizing claims of Presidential power. in the end, whether Myers and Bolten testify or not is secondary to the courts slapping down their outragous claim that they could ignore Congress.

After all, once they go to Congress, if they refuse to answer they could then be found in contempt of Congress and face penalty. That opens yet another legal question, but the problem is that people have just sat around and let the Bush administration soil the Constitution at will.

[AnimeThat]

Originally posted by GePap
I don't share your pessimism in this regard. What is important is the question of whether Presidents can claim some sort of privilage for their aides has gotten at least a first answer and it was one against aggrandizing claims of Presidential power. in the end, whether Myers and Bolten testify or not is secondary to the courts slapping down their outragous claim that they could ignore Congress.

After all, once they go to Congress, if they refuse to answer they could then be found in contempt of Congress and face penalty. That opens yet another legal question, but the problem is that people have just sat around and let the Bush administration soil the Constitution at will. But with your optimism, just how long before this all comes about or gets swept away?

Thanks


oh and as for Bush soiling, he is not the first nor will he be the last

[dogdesign]

Fair enough.......

[masterboyz]

Hmmm...I think there is good reason for seperation of powers. I wonder how a Congressman would react if the White House summoned one of their aids over to answer questions.

If Congress feels that a law has been broken, then they have the power to call for a special prosecutor.

That being said, I do feel that Bush has done as much as any President since Nixon to try and expand the power of the Presidentcy. However, the Congresses of the mid and late 1970's did a whole lot to try and expand the power of the Congress.

It is a continual struggle...and one that I believe the founders anticipated by setting up an odd number of power centers.

I hope that the Presidentcy appeals and that it goes to the SCOTUS. I will be happy with their decision whichever way it goes.

[ImmimiFruff]

I often view congressional hearings/potenntial investigations as a result of "backroom handshake agreements"

In other words, they hold these, but when all said and done, has it amounted to much?

I hope it does GePap, just simply dont feel it is Justice served, more an afront to say they did something when in fact they havent done squat


I have seen in the business world "out front" firm, fair and so called just statements, but behind the scenes, just the exact opposite


But I do have hope, just not a believer in any "biggies" coming out of it


Gramps

[Sillaycheg]

Originally posted by GePap
There have been many worthwhile congressional hearings over the years, for example, hearing on war production and profiteering during WW2.

I don't care if this particular hearing goes anywhere. WHat I do want is the dangerous claims made by the Bush administration to be slapped down by the courts. What happened in those hearing, about profiteering?

Also, how long after diid the hearings take place and were the guilty sent away or had all items removed from them that they profitted from?

Thanks, learning something new here............

[diutuartina]

Thanks GePap, and for the record, I aint "trolling you" but merely suspicious that theses committes are anything more than a circus, and yes, some lambs get sacrificed but in the end, no real victories, other than the dreaded moral or "they knew we were there" victories...

Thanks for the response though, informative

[Wymdqcvb]

The talking heads are saying they'll go to Congress and cite 'executive privilege' per question as asked.