[Gosxjqum]

I am Macedonia.

[rouletteroulette]

Originally posted by MrFun
Oh no!!! Obama is human and he mispoke! What bothers me about this statement is not that Obama calls his great-uncle "uncle" (I do that myself), or that he doesn't personally know that Uncle Ralph could not have liberated Auschwitz, since the Russians did that (although it definitely shows that, in his many world travels, he's never visited Auschwitz, or probably any other concentration camp memorial), but rather:

1) he doesn't think facts important enough to have a staff member check his old family stories before sharing them

and, more importantly

2) the point of his telling the story was not that his uncle was a hero, but rather a victim, spending several months holed up in an attic, upon his return from the war.

[PRengine]

You fail at the internet, history, and life. But if you must talk about people other than Obama, please at least limit it to the people running.

[Ygxejxox]

Originally posted by Bosh
His uncle was one of the first into Buchenwald. Is this really worth arguing about? Obama has an uncle?

[FloareTraurne]

this whole thing was created because obama was too embarrassed to check the facts with his mom

[Xibizopt]

anyone know a politican who does not mis-speak ?

how abouty HRC comment om the JFK Jr Assassination ?

[GohJHM9k]

It was his great uncle, so even more unimportant than if it was his uncle.

No matter what he said, his lame attempt to pretend he has any real connection to veterans or active duty soldiers is pathetic and laughable.

He has nothing to offer in this category, he should simply leave it alone and focus on what he does have credentials for. When anyone discovers what that could possible be, let the rest of us know

[esconsise]

Originally posted by Addled Platypus
how abouty HRC comment om the JFK Jr Assassination ? I'm going to assume that was deliberate and say "good one."

Obama should be ashamed. Liberating Auschwitz would have been something for his family to be proud of. But some other concentration camp? Please. As the German saying goes, "if you haven't rescued Jews from a horrible death in Auschwitz, you haven't rescued Jews from a horrible death."

[Ifroham4]

I fully admit that we are impossibly stupid idiots. Not just Clinton/Obama fanatics, but the McCain ones, Nader ones, and even Barr (Libertarian) ones.

[exchpaypaleg]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
I fully admit that we are impossibly stupid idiots. Not just Clinton/Obama fanatics, but the McCain ones, Nader ones, and even Barr (Libertarian) ones. The only difference is the McCain idiots aren't competing internally. I will grant you that you guys are just as stupid as the Nader and Barr supporters.

[artenotreah]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui


Oh, well they were (they are just quiet now). Remember the whole Ann Coulter saying if McCain wins, she'll campaign for Hillary? And Limbaugh going off on McCain. Right wing radio still isn't that happy with Johnny Mac. This was so long ago it doesn't matter anymore. The fact is it's mid 2008 and you guys are still weaking eachother. McCain can only get stronger here, and you guys are ****ing it all up.

[weaddercaps]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
Please... the Democrats were thinking about running a half black man or a white woman. They were already trying to tempt fate and **** up the oppertunity. So that makes it smart for you guys to cut eachother town to make it even MORE likely for the republicans to win again?

[nanyaHgoc]

Who is "you guys"?

I belong not to a party.

[ForumMasta]

Originally posted by Victor Galis
Oh noes! A Harvard law grad doesn't realize that Auschwitz is in Poland . If a politican here made that mistake that would be a big story.

[LeaderBiz]

He mixed up his concentration camps and said uncle instead of great-uncle. A mistake, yes. Egg on his face? Some, sure.

-Arrian

[SinyugiN]

No, it's not what you want. Boo, ok? I still prefer him to Hillary or McCain. Has John learnt the difference between Sunnis and Shiites yet?

-Arrian

[KRbGA0Bg]

Switching it to Auschwitz and hoping nobody would notice is even dumber than just making a mistake/misremembering.

-Arrian

[ThisIsOK]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
Who is "you guys"?

I belong not to a party. You're a blatant Hillary fanboy.

[educationonlines]

Originally posted by Patroklos
This is Barrack Obama, he has a cadre of people whose only job is to fact check this stuff. "Uncle" and "Auschwitz" were diliberatly chosen because people know about that/can relate to that. If you said Buchenwald the story would have lost is "point" because most of those at the rally wouldn't have a clue of the significance of the site.

That said, the basic gist of his story is correct, but it is funny watching people trip over themselves to excuse Obama's attempt make up a more user friendly version of himself. Is it funnier that people are defending him because the jist and sentiment of the statement is correct, or is it funnier that republican sleezebags are jumping all up over it like it is a massive lie?

the latter is true, assuredly.

[Sx1qBli0]

And yes, everyone does it, but it's getting harder to get away with and I don't think politicians quite get that yet. There are more ears listening these days.

And normally I shrug most of it off and just laugh, but Obama is selling a package that doesn't include this type of behavior and it looks worse on him. Heck I expect Hillary to be a lying B**** and McCain to flip flop on items that cost him previously with the electorate.

Obama is selling a higher standard but doesn't seem to live up to it himself.