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Originally posted by Lorizael
I keep logs of old conversations so that when I want to feel needlessly angry, I can go back and read over the logs without having to involve anyone else in my immaturity. That's nice dear, but I have a feeling the only people angry right now are Apple shareholders (both in mind, and money). It's very relevant because Agathon's recent tear is how inaccurate my statements are about Apple. I believe he even said this in the exact same paragraph of mentioning my comment on how Apple's stock was overvalued... ![]() Trade volume on Apple today is insanely high. You wouldn't believe the percentage of trades flowing through the system at work right now with "SELL APPLE" subjects... |
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Yep.
From December 27th (about the start of my graph above): Apple is now unquestionably the pre-eminent computer company, and the stockmarket knows it. Apple's phone has redefined the way people will interact with mobile devices, and their touch portable music players are a generation ahead of anyone else's, in particular the abortion known as the Zune. Just for a laugh, some idiotic Apolyton posters suggested last year that Apple was overpriced... Today AAPL was trading at over $200 a share. This is yet another failed prediction of doom from Apolyton's anti-Apple brigade, who, if nothing else, have demonstrated their utter incompetence in tech prediction for the whole of the 6 years I have been a poster here. So you can see why this warrants bringing this to his attention. From October 07: This is just crying because Apple has been doing so well lately. I remember that some foolish Apolyton poster said that the stock was massively overvalued... Just shows how much some people know. Resistance is futile. Note that while Apple's price hovered around $200, Agathon put full faith in the stock market as the tool to value the worth of a company. I can't wait to hear how he spins this. |
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Originally posted by Wezil
Not to defend Apple, but aren't pretty much all shares down radically the last few days? I can see the trend your posted graph shows and it doesn't look good but "18.45% today alone" seems a tad misleading. It's not misleading, it's fact? ![]() And yes, most shares are down, but Apple is leading the back. MSFT is down 2.38% today, for instance. |
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Drogue is basically correct.
When the market as a whole is in turmoil, Apple's stock tends to drop. This happened only a few months ago, where the stock dropped heavily. When things calmed down, it moved up again. Note that the stock dropped even though Apple beat expectations. This would be news, except the same thing happened a few months back. In other words, this drop is caused by the market situation in general, not by anything Apple did. There are some deeply stupid anti-Apple posters on Apolyton. Fortunately, most of them are on my ignore list, so I don't have to bother with their daft pronouncements, which have been consistently wrong for going on five years now. My favourite is how buymusic.com and PlaysforSure were going to put Apple out of the music business. That sure ended up being true... If you believe that recession will be avoided, then buy AAPL. You'll make a ton of money. |
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Originally posted by Drogue
Wait, so when the market's falling by quite a lot, it's a shock that a luxury goods brand is falling a bit more? This doesn't say much about Apple, it says more about the economy. Asher doesn't think this is at all shocking; it's confirmation of what he already believed, that AAPL is [was] overvalued. |
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Originally posted by Agathon
Drogue is basically correct. When the market as a whole is in turmoil, Apple's stock tends to drop. This happened only a few months ago, where the stock dropped heavily. When things calmed down, it moved up again. Note that the stock dropped even though Apple beat expectations. This would be news, except the same thing happened a few months back. In other words, this drop is caused by the market situation in general, not by anything Apple did. The market, in general, was up. Apple was down. Way down. Don't blame this on general market woes, it shows just how ignorant you are. If you believe that recession will be avoided, then buy AAPL. You'll make a ton of money. The people that took your suggestion to buy AAPL a month ago when you last made it lost roughly 35% since then. It's still overvalued when you compare Apple to its contemporaries in earnings per share. It's got more to drop, and it will. Apple's had a helluva ride but reality is setting in. Apple's stock now is akin to Microsoft's stock in the late 80s/early 90s, it levels out at some reasonable pace once people actually understand the company more. |
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