[bely832new]

Swimming is an awesome workout if the you have the facilities available and the time. I don't even bother at my current gym, way to crowded. Yup, and then its like swimming with Cartman in the little kid's pool

But one look at pro swimmers and you can see what swimming does for body fat, those guys look like greyhounds.

[FredderiK]

WTF is ZMA?

If you're looking for additional supplements, you could consider creatine, casein (slow-digesting protein, take before bed), BCAAs, and glutamine, in that order.

[ViaplyVuple]

I thnk I am good on the 2-3 servings per day. I talked to the guy who gave me my free three days of training at the gym, and he said that for muscle gaining, you only needed 20-33%. I am still glad to have the whey powder though, as it allows me to hvae days where I don't eat tofu, and I can still keep in the 20-33% range. 50% was rediclous even with the whey powder (to reach it I would have to cosume as much as 6 servings of the powder).

He recommended as a book on exercise "Fat or fit" by Covert Bailey (he actually recommended another book he wrote, that he didn't remember the name of).

JM