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Old 02-05-2008, 03:06 AM   #21
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oops.
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Old 02-05-2008, 03:08 AM   #22
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Depends on the person receiving the money...
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Old 02-05-2008, 03:41 AM   #23
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Originally posted by DinoDoc
I thought it was called a Driver's License. It is. We have been forced to have ID for a long time. This is so silly.
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Old 02-05-2008, 04:13 AM   #24
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Originally posted by -Jrabbit
Rufus has it right. We will be assimilated. We already are assimilated.
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Old 02-05-2008, 04:58 AM   #25
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Originally posted by OneFootInTheGrave
communism might be mostly dead, but communist ideas are well and truly alive State IDs well predate communism. Don't blame us for what kings did.
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Old 02-05-2008, 05:46 AM   #26
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WTF difference does it make if it's State or Federal?
Get a grip. Like the State won't identify you to the Feds?

Besides that, it won't affect Texas, once we leave.
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Old 02-05-2008, 06:01 AM   #27
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That's because we weren't really that interested. We had Indians after us, too, you know.
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Old 02-05-2008, 06:10 AM   #28
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That's right, of 1836.
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Old 02-05-2008, 06:45 AM   #29
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Considering the fact that the Court allowed Congress to bully its way into an area given to it by the Constitution by the 21st Amendment, I fail to see at what point the Court might call it coercion.
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Old 02-05-2008, 07:00 AM   #30
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Subjective measures don't really cut it for me and only serves to bolster the point I made that the Feds have the club in the form of the Highway funds to force itself into other Constitutional State powers as laid out by snoopy.
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Old 02-05-2008, 07:12 AM   #31
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My desire to keep my soul keeps me from applying to law school anyway.
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Old 02-05-2008, 07:19 AM   #32
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Originally posted by SlowwHand
This isn't about law school. It's about law. QFT
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Old 02-05-2008, 07:22 AM   #33
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Originally posted by DinoDoc
The law is settled Sloww. If the Feds feel like intruding in a State matter they lack the ability to directly effect and in fact are prohibited from doing so by the US Constitution, they have the ability to squeeze the States in the pocketbook. As I said, only to a point.

If the feds slap on a 50% penalty, the Courts are going to strike it down in violation of Dole, no questions asked.
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Old 02-05-2008, 07:56 AM   #34
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Originally posted by Geronimo
are you kidding? that orwellian name has done more to excite opposition to the thing than anything actually contained in it. euphemistic names just bring out the skeptical cynic in everybody. You're completely clueless if you think selling things based on a favorable name rather than apt description doesn't work.
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Old 02-05-2008, 09:18 AM   #35
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What's so bad about a national ID card? Most other countries have them. What human rights does it violate?
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Old 02-05-2008, 10:18 AM   #36
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Originally posted by SlowwHand
WTF difference does it make if it's State or Federal?
Get a grip. Like the State won't identify you to the Feds?

Besides that, it won't affect Texas, once we leave. Didn't you guys beg to join the Union so that the Mexicans wouldn't kick your ass?
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Old 02-05-2008, 10:33 AM   #37
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Originally posted by Sandman
The right to go about your business as a free citizen. Halt! Your papers! And this would change things...how?

Incidently, why would the I.D. cards be tamperproof? Not tamperproof, but much, much easier to detect when they have been tampered with, not unlike a passport.
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