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Originally posted by Arrian
You, like many others, feel the creation of Israel was a mistake, and that the Palestinians got screwed*.

* - I share at least part of this viewpoint. My conclusions are different, though. So we agree, what's your bloody problem...? Why do you seem to think that it's OK for power to be cut to hospitals Arrian? Because that seems to be our basic difference in opinion.

It therefore follows that anything Israel does in conflict with the Pals is wrong from the get-go, because Israel shouldn't be there in the first place. The only way Israel could make things right, according to this view, is by packing up and leaving. Or at the least capitulating on every issue that arises. Er no. Whilst it might be preferable seeing them end their 60 year squat of a country that they had no right to be given, much less take the rest of the land that they occupy, realistically we all know that this is never going to happen. I have actually never said that Israel should cease to exist, I merely would like to see them revert back to their 1967 borders - without this crap about retaining the largest settlements or keeping about 10% of the West Bank for 'security reasons' and all their other bullshit excuses.

The Israelis, understandably IMO, don't see it that way. Indeed, they think it is fine to use utterly disproportionate action.http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...ons/icon13.gif

Of course rocket fire by a tiny terroristic minority on Israel must be condemned, but how can you ever expect it to end when Israel collectively punishes 1.5m innocent people by strangling their even their basic existence...!!?

Seriously, what would any of us do if we'd been subjected to that sort of callous oppression for the last 40 years!!?

No, all this sort of disproportionate action does is swell the ranks of those who seek to fire the rockets in the first place - and after 40 years Israel should know that damned well.http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...s/neeschud.gif

I thought MOBI was finally being locked away http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...lies/frown.gif

For someone who claims to not watch tv, you know an aweful lot.

Originally posted by Sirotnikov
I thought MOBI was finally being locked away http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...lies/frown.gif Actually I just escaped Gaza today...http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...ies/tongue.gif

The one in the second pic killed the one in the first pic, Siro.

Originally posted by DinoDoc
The one in the second pic killed the one in the first pic, Siro. i think the 2nd one is hotter too

That went without saying but I was talking about a plot point.

It's the eyes that do it for me.

And your response is to threadjack by objectifying women like they were pieces of meat…http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...s/rolleyes.gif

Seriously, you lot are actually pathetic – it’s like a herd instinct or something. And the funny thing is that you most likely don’t even have the self-awareness to realise how sexist your behaviour is – you’ll all probably laugh at this thinking I’m the ****ed up weirdo and get back to wanking over your vast Gbs of PC porn…http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...s/neeschud.gif

Yeah, nice one - avoid the real points I was trying to make that show the preferable option is not a possible one...

I never took you as one to take such cowardly tactics, but then seeing as this thread is exposing you as the Israel Apologist it seems you truly are - I guess I'm not entirely surprised...http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...s/neeschud.gif

So by definition, what you're saying is that you think it is entirely reasonable to forcibly wrest control of land the Palestinians had been living in for countless generations, steal their property, eject them to live in poverty ever since and treat those few that were able to remain as second class citizens?

Oh wait, you're American. Your country was built on the genocidal clearance of the Native Americans - it is little wonder that since you yourself have directly profited by this sort of act, you should support it when it happens elsewhere...http://www.discussworldissues.com/im...ons/icon14.gif

Originally posted by MOBIUS
Oh wait, you're American. Your country was built on the genocidal clearance of the Native Americans - it is little wonder that since you yourself have directly profited by this sort of act, you should support it when it happens elsewhere...http://www.discussworldissues.com/im...ons/icon14.gif Not at all. We should never have exterminated the injuns as thoroughly as we did. It would have been wiser to just murder their men and then have our way with their women. We can only hope the Israelis learn from our mistakes and save some curvaceous Arab booty.

Originally posted by MOBIUS
Oh wait, you're American. Your country was built on the genocidal clearance of the Native Americans - it is little wonder that since you yourself have directly profited by this sort of act, you should support it when it happens elsewhere...http://www.discussworldissues.com/im...ons/icon14.gif Are you implying that the British have never profited from brutalizing other people? http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...milies/lol.gif http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...milies/lol.gif http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...milies/lol.gif http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...milies/lol.gif

and I doubt he has DIRECTLY profited by it.

Originally posted by Oerdin
So it is all Israel's fault that the Egyptians have a fence on their border? :???: They built it after the jews escaped.

Originally posted by MOBIUS
http://msnbcmedia2.msn.com/j/msnbc/C...ed.hmedium.jpg

Gazans flood through Egypt border

This is just the latest and more overt than usual example of Israel's ongoing efforts to crush the spirit and will of the people inside what is effectively just a large open air prison...

Anything to justify its continued theft and colonisation of Palestinian land, not to mention the stripping of its resources.http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...s/neeschud.gif

There can be no peace in the Middle East while Israel continues its barbaric and inhumane collective punishment policies...!http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...ons/icon13.gif Cry me a river.