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Old 01-23-2008, 01:45 PM   #1
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Default Prison Break!
I wish you luck Moby
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Old 01-23-2008, 02:07 PM   #2
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Wooosh!
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Old 01-23-2008, 03:19 PM   #3
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Originally posted by Arrian
You, like many others, feel the creation of Israel was a mistake, and that the Palestinians got screwed*.

* - I share at least part of this viewpoint. My conclusions are different, though. So we agree, what's your bloody problem...? Why do you seem to think that it's OK for power to be cut to hospitals Arrian? Because that seems to be our basic difference in opinion.

It therefore follows that anything Israel does in conflict with the Pals is wrong from the get-go, because Israel shouldn't be there in the first place. The only way Israel could make things right, according to this view, is by packing up and leaving. Or at the least capitulating on every issue that arises. Er no. Whilst it might be preferable seeing them end their 60 year squat of a country that they had no right to be given, much less take the rest of the land that they occupy, realistically we all know that this is never going to happen. I have actually never said that Israel should cease to exist, I merely would like to see them revert back to their 1967 borders - without this crap about retaining the largest settlements or keeping about 10% of the West Bank for 'security reasons' and all their other bullshit excuses.

The Israelis, understandably IMO, don't see it that way. Indeed, they think it is fine to use utterly disproportionate action.

Of course rocket fire by a tiny terroristic minority on Israel must be condemned, but how can you ever expect it to end when Israel collectively punishes 1.5m innocent people by strangling their even their basic existence...!!?

Seriously, what would any of us do if we'd been subjected to that sort of callous oppression for the last 40 years!!?

No, all this sort of disproportionate action does is swell the ranks of those who seek to fire the rockets in the first place - and after 40 years Israel should know that damned well.
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Old 01-23-2008, 05:55 PM   #4
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In pictures: Gaza border break

OMG! Teh evel terrorists are escaping!!!

Kill them - kill them all!
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Old 01-23-2008, 06:17 PM   #5
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I thought MOBI was finally being locked away
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Old 01-23-2008, 06:26 PM   #6
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For someone who claims to not watch tv, you know an aweful lot.
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Old 01-23-2008, 06:34 PM   #7
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Originally posted by Sirotnikov
I thought MOBI was finally being locked away Actually I just escaped Gaza today...
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Old 01-23-2008, 06:51 PM   #8
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The one in the second pic killed the one in the first pic, Siro.
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Old 01-23-2008, 06:54 PM   #9
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Originally posted by DinoDoc
The one in the second pic killed the one in the first pic, Siro. i think the 2nd one is hotter too
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Old 01-23-2008, 06:56 PM   #10
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That went without saying but I was talking about a plot point.
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Old 01-23-2008, 07:04 PM   #11
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It's the eyes that do it for me.
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Old 01-24-2008, 12:20 AM   #12
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And your response is to threadjack by objectifying women like they were pieces of meat…

Seriously, you lot are actually pathetic – it’s like a herd instinct or something. And the funny thing is that you most likely don’t even have the self-awareness to realise how sexist your behaviour is – you’ll all probably laugh at this thinking I’m the ****ed up weirdo and get back to wanking over your vast Gbs of PC porn…
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Old 01-24-2008, 12:29 PM   #13
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Old 01-24-2008, 03:19 PM   #14
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Yeah, nice one - avoid the real points I was trying to make that show the preferable option is not a possible one...

I never took you as one to take such cowardly tactics, but then seeing as this thread is exposing you as the Israel Apologist it seems you truly are - I guess I'm not entirely surprised...

So by definition, what you're saying is that you think it is entirely reasonable to forcibly wrest control of land the Palestinians had been living in for countless generations, steal their property, eject them to live in poverty ever since and treat those few that were able to remain as second class citizens?

Oh wait, you're American. Your country was built on the genocidal clearance of the Native Americans - it is little wonder that since you yourself have directly profited by this sort of act, you should support it when it happens elsewhere...
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Old 01-24-2008, 04:51 PM   #15
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Originally posted by MOBIUS
Oh wait, you're American. Your country was built on the genocidal clearance of the Native Americans - it is little wonder that since you yourself have directly profited by this sort of act, you should support it when it happens elsewhere... Not at all. We should never have exterminated the injuns as thoroughly as we did. It would have been wiser to just murder their men and then have our way with their women. We can only hope the Israelis learn from our mistakes and save some curvaceous Arab booty.
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Old 01-24-2008, 07:21 PM   #16
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Originally posted by MOBIUS
Oh wait, you're American. Your country was built on the genocidal clearance of the Native Americans - it is little wonder that since you yourself have directly profited by this sort of act, you should support it when it happens elsewhere... Are you implying that the British have never profited from brutalizing other people?

and I doubt he has DIRECTLY profited by it.
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Old 01-24-2008, 07:36 PM   #17
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Originally posted by Oerdin
So it is all Israel's fault that the Egyptians have a fence on their border? :???: They built it after the jews escaped.
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Old 01-24-2008, 08:09 PM   #18
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Originally posted by MOBIUS


Gazans flood through Egypt border



This is just the latest and more overt than usual example of Israel's ongoing efforts to crush the spirit and will of the people inside what is effectively just a large open air prison...

Anything to justify its continued theft and colonisation of Palestinian land, not to mention the stripping of its resources.

There can be no peace in the Middle East while Israel continues its barbaric and inhumane collective punishment policies...! Cry me a river.
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