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Old 01-09-2008, 09:43 PM   #1
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i·ro·ny [ahy-ruh-nee, ahy-er-]
–noun, plural -nies.
1. the use of words to convey a meaning that is the opposite of its literal meaning: the irony of her reply, “How nice!” when I said I had to work all weekend.
2. Literature. a. a technique of indicating, as through character or plot development, an intention or attitude opposite to that which is actually or ostensibly stated.
b. (esp. in contemporary writing) a manner of organizing a work so as to give full expression to contradictory or complementary impulses, attitudes, etc., esp. as a means of indicating detachment from a subject, theme, or emotion.

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Old 01-09-2008, 10:23 PM   #2
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You guys got it all wrong. Irony is of anything resembling, relating to, or tasting much like iron.
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Old 01-09-2008, 10:27 PM   #3
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ironic: happening in the opposite way to what is expected, and typically causing wry amusement because of this.

I think it's ironic that W., the actual biggest threat to word peace, would call anyone else a threat to world peace, and that he doesn't realize that the world is currently quite a distance from what could reasonably be called "peace"
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Old 01-09-2008, 10:32 PM   #4
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ironic: happening in the opposite way to what is expected, and typically causing wry amusement because of this. Thats not irony. Thats somehthing happening in the opposite way than expected, typically causing wry amuesment.

And you fail on both acounts because "W" is only the biggest threat to world peace if you a dillusional.
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Old 01-09-2008, 10:47 PM   #5
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Irony - way of life to Brits, a metal to Americans.
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Old 01-09-2008, 10:56 PM   #6
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The joke wasn't funny if it took that much effort to explain it.
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Old 01-09-2008, 11:04 PM   #7
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I can't help it if your posts are boring. Point that sarcasm somewhere else.
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Old 01-10-2008, 12:10 AM   #8
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Originally posted by DinoDoc
The joke wasn't funny if it took that much effort to explain it. You didn't find the joke funny because you don't understand irony.

I didn't find the joke funny because it was a bit trite.
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Old 01-10-2008, 12:16 AM   #9
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Originally posted by Patroklos
i·ro·ny [ahy-ruh-nee, ahy-er-]
–noun, plural -nies.
1. the use of words to convey a meaning that is the opposite of its literal meaning: the irony of her reply, “How nice!” when I said I had to work all weekend. Wouldn't that be sarcasm?...
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Old 01-10-2008, 12:36 AM   #10
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Originally posted by Verto


Wouldn't that be sarcasm?... Something that is ironic and sarcastic is sardonic.
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Old 01-10-2008, 01:11 AM   #11
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Something that is ironic and sarcastic is sardonic. I always wondered what the meaning of sardonic was, could you site an example of something sardonic.
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Old 01-10-2008, 03:17 AM   #12
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MrFun, who is not funny or fun, is ironic

MrFun calling Asher too gay, is sarcasm

Asher getting mad at MrFun for calling him too gay is trite

Mr. Bush calling someone a threat to world peace is a miracle, as I didn't think monkeys could talk.
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Old 01-10-2008, 05:38 AM   #13
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Originally posted by OneFootInTheGrave
third term Now, does this count as being sarcastic or sardonic?

Or neither?
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Old 01-10-2008, 05:58 AM   #14
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My, this sparked quite a controversy...a regular Iron-Contra.

(runs away pursued by halfheartedly thrown tomatoes)
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Old 01-10-2008, 07:03 AM   #15
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Originally posted by Japher
MrFun, who is not funny or fun, is ironic

MrFun calling Asher too gay, is sarcasm

Asher getting mad at MrFun for calling him too gay is trite

Mr. Bush calling someone a threat to world peace is a miracle, as I didn't think monkeys could talk.
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Old 01-10-2008, 11:34 AM   #16
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Originally posted by Patroklos


Thats not irony. Thats somehthing happening in the opposite way than expected, typically causing wry amuesment.

And you fail on both acounts because "W" is only the biggest threat to world peace if you a dillusional. hmm, I think the being delusional applies to you as well if you fail to put yourself in the perspecitve of the average Iraqi whose country was invaded because of a bunch of lies and personal frustrations of a few.

the real irony of your comment is that the further you move to the political right all empathic abilities for anything that does not happen to your "inner circle" seem to go out the window although moral authority is increasingly used as a basis for justification.
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Old 01-10-2008, 11:45 AM   #17
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Originally posted by Ari Rahikkala
If irony is something that was opposite to what was expected, then this certainly isn't ironic. Who *didn't* expect Bush to fingerpoint at Iran and call it a threat to America/world peace/civilization/God/some other synonym? Incorrect definition.

Irony often requires a perverse twist rather than just an opposite of what is expected or something unusual.

A fire station burning down is irony. A police station being burgled is irony. A town planner being stuck in traffic is irony.

In the context of the joke, Bush is not being ironic, rather he is being hypocritical. The situation can be seen as ironic in the context of the warmonger is calling for peace and the peaceful guy is calling for war. You have to accept certain political viewpoints to make it work.
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Old 01-10-2008, 03:06 PM   #18
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Dauphin seems to be right
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Old 01-10-2008, 05:34 PM   #19
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I just wish one of the current crop of US presidential hopefulls had the potential of being as entertaining as George Dubyah Bush.
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Old 01-10-2008, 06:50 PM   #20
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Originally posted by Heraclitus
Ron Paul? I initially thought "Who the hell is he?", but then I googled the name.

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/827544/ron_paul_girl/
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