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Originally posted by Berzerker
I already responded to Sandman's source, looks like I gotta repeat what I said because you're so good at reading. You can't just rehash Sitchin and pretend it validates what Sitchin said.

One thing from that post that needs to be addressed though:

But consider this, after traveling to Egypt and Mesopotamia, Democritus told his fellow Greeks that there are more planets than can be seen with the naked eye. Democritus proposed that other stars were actually like our Sun, and that they had planets as well. He wasn't talking about planets orbiting our Sun. He was talking about planets orbiting around other stars.

The star does not represent a star, it represents Ishtar and her planet was Venus - the 8th planet. The Sumerian Mars was identified by a 6 pointed star and it is the 6th planet. Those 3 symbols represent 3 deities - Inanna/Ishtar (Venus), Sin (the Moon god), and Utu/Shamash (the Sun god). These 3 deities were kin and worship of one usually translated into worship of all three, hence their common grouping. The symbol in your seal is a 6 pointed star. So you are saying it is Mars?

Because the Earth is the platform from which they watched planets "wander" - traveling in "retrograde" as we pass by them on the inside. Yes, it was viewed differently than the wandering stars. In fact, Sumerian astronomy was geocentric. So they certainly wouldn't have represented the solar system as revolving around the Sun.

So what we're left with is:

- It's not the Sun in the center.
- They wouldn't have put the Sun in the center anyways.

So what are these names? As you know they associated known solar bodies with gods. Here are the associations:

Moon - Nanna
Sun - Utu

Mercury - Enki
Venus - Inanna
Mars - Nergal
Jupiter - Enlil
Saturn - Ninurta

I know you want desperately for us to accept that because they had 12 deities in their pantheon (this is incorrect) that they must have known about 12 solar bodies, but that just doesn't hold up (even if it were correct). They had different ways of grouping the deities in their pantheon:

- 4 Primary deities. An, Enki, Enlil, Ninhursag.

- 7 as those "who decree fate". An, Enki, Enlil, Ninhursag likely included. (Though some would just use the 7 known solar bodies listed above.)

- 12 in their divine counsel. An, Ashur, Enlil, Enki, Ninhursag, Ninlil, Inanna, Utu, Nanna, Ninurta, Sherida, Utu, Sherida.

- Many more gods and demi-gods that didn't make these particular special groups.

Why should we jump to the conclusion that because we have 12 in the divine counsel that there must be 12 solar bodies? Why not 4? Or 7? Or one for every deity? Why should the number of Gods even be considered in the first place? They didn't even group the 7 to correspond to visible solar bodies as far as we know, as Ninhursag represents the earth (which was not considered the same as the wandering planets, Moon, or Sun), and An was never given a solar body to represent.

Well then we have a problem, you see, the Pleiades were supposedly represented by 7 ~equally sized dots in two rows of 3 and 4. That's just one theory I ran across. I notice you don't address the other theories.

The reason I gave multiple theories is because no one knows for sure what those dots are meant to represent because it's not something that we have an explanation for. (Whereas we have Sumerian astronomical charts which don't include Uranus, Neptune, or Pluto or any other hypothetical planets.) The text on the seal doesn't reference what the star represented is, or what the dots around it are supposed to represent (if anything specific).