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Old 09-10-2007, 11:29 PM   #21
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Field Artillery officer.
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Old 09-10-2007, 11:33 PM   #22
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I had that view before becoming FA..

Also regarding FA, I originally wanted Medical, but due to admin mistakes I got FA. They acknowledged the mistake but decided they need more FA people anyway. I am going to a unit that doesn't take their artillery overseas, ftw. I will probably do company level intel work.
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Old 09-10-2007, 11:40 PM   #23
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Well, this was a real mistake. I don't really care anymore. I am 5 weeks into a four month course that doesn't really apply to what I will actually do at all. Add that in to two months ago training I really didn't need either. Before getting to my unit I will have one two week course on something my unit has but probably won't take over. That's the extent of the formal training.
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Old 09-11-2007, 12:12 AM   #24
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But, but, Reid and Pelosi said so...
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Old 09-11-2007, 02:16 AM   #25
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The (very controversial) methodology they use to show attacks are declining was borrowed from the Pentagon.

So even if he didn't show them his report, they certainly provided the stats. And the graphs. Etc.

This hearing was irrelevant.
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Old 09-11-2007, 02:30 AM   #26
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The (very controversial) methodology they use to show attacks are declining was borrowed from the Pentagon. Every single myth about how the Pentagon skews numbers was individually denied under oath by Petraeus (not counting car bombs, only counting bullets to the back of the head, etc.). Moveon.org has can't produce where they got it from, no news agency has taken issue with his denial of those methods (to include moveon.org's own spokes person on Hardball) as of yet.

What does that mean? That there are people who blatantly lied, and it isn't the military. Do you take issue with what Petreaus said as far as how they determine sectarian vice other violence?

In fact, does anyone care to challenge any of his testimony as not factual?
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Old 09-11-2007, 02:49 AM   #27
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Every single myth about how the Pentagon skews numbers was individually denied under oath by Petraeus (not counting car bombs, only counting bullets to the back of the head, etc.). Moveon.org has can't produce where they got it from, no news agency has taken issue with his denial of those methods (to include moveon.org's own spokes person on Hardball) as of yet. Huh? In the link I provide they cite the Washington Post, which is certainly a "news agency."
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Old 09-11-2007, 03:13 AM   #28
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What an absurd argument.

Where did he outline the methodology and draw the distinction? What exactly did he say?
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Old 09-11-2007, 03:42 AM   #29
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Originally posted by Wiglaf

I don't care one way or another, really. There are bigger issues. Whether or not the surge is working now, it is clear to me that US needs to remain in Iraq for several more years before moving on to North Korea or Iran. So when can we expect your enlistment, or are we going to call you a *****?
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Old 09-11-2007, 03:56 AM   #30
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Thanks, I was actually looking for those after CSPAN said they had them on their site but couldn't find them.
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Old 09-11-2007, 04:04 AM   #31
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Originally posted by Agathon


So when can we expect your enlistment, or are we going to call you a *****? Who needs my enlistment? There's plenty of volunteers to take care of Iraq already. Iran and North Korea don't really need to be invaded with troops, either.
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Old 09-11-2007, 04:08 AM   #32
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Michael Moore also believes that, but he is a fat toddler who probably did a book report on 1984 back when his fat balls were dropping.
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Old 09-11-2007, 04:28 AM   #33
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As was pointed out by another fine Poly poster, apparently the Senator was not attacking the General, but merely bringing up the moveon.org comments (which I think were included in that retarded add of theirs, talk about shooting yourself in the foot) so Petraeus could deny them in front of everyone.

In any case, what I typed is exactly what he presented (not quoted, I still can't find a transcript).
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Old 09-11-2007, 03:33 PM   #34
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Originally posted by Wiglaf
Did you just quote 1984? Are you in 5th grade? Do you actually believe that the administration doesn't jack off to the very idea of this war every day?
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Old 09-11-2007, 04:00 PM   #35
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Originally posted by Patroklos
Btw Kid, you realize "Bush II" didn't say mission accomplished and had the white house had nothing to do with that sign, right? I'm sorry, I was under the impression that he is the Commander in Chief.

Navy and administration sources said that though the banner was the Navy's idea, the White House actually made it. -cnn
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Old 09-11-2007, 04:08 PM   #36
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Originally posted by Patroklos
So is he responsible for the shitty pot of coffee I brewed this morning? Bush isn't going to come out and say, "Hey the war is a big success because all my buddies are getting much richer." So that's the best I could do. Sue me.
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Old 09-11-2007, 04:14 PM   #37
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Originally posted by Patroklos
So you are admitting he didn't say that, and that you are a hack?

Is a mission accomlished sign inappropriate for a naval vessel returning from deployment? I'm not even saying that the sign says what the media made it out to say. Yes it's an OBVIOUS hack. I openly admit it. It's not like I'm trying to fool anyone. If you actually think that someone is going to believe that Bush would openly claim that the war is a success because Haliburton has received $17B from it you're crazier than I thought you were.
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