[u2ZQGC6b]

Bullfighting is bullshit. Put the matador down on the ground with a Buck knife.

[BrianGoldsmith]

Not really. It's the same mindset. A bully (no pun intended) is still a bully.

[JessicaLin]

Winston, are you being serious?
You think the international community should tell Spain to stop that?
It would be unrespectful...

Plenty of spaniards dont like bull fighting, Also, in the communities with some degree of separatist feelings in Spain, they are very against bullfighting, because they see it as typicaly spanish, and they try to be the less spanish they can be, it also gives them an opportunity to call their "spanish opressors" barbaric


I associate opposition to bull fighting with vegan commie hippies

[creewespock]

Bull fighting is wimpy. Hunting is only marginally better. Sitting in stands and blinds. Give me a break.

[somamasoso]

It isn't like bulls who get hit with an electric stunner and then their necks slit have it so much better. They'd probably rather go down fighting if they could choose.

[aabbaDE]

Sloww, hunting is less wimpy when the hunter attacks a bear with a sword or a knife.

I can shoot an animal with a rifle. I can't fight a bull with a sword.

It's also like Straybow says. At least the bull gets to try to kill his killer first, sometimes they succeed as well. You don't see that happening in the food industry. These bulls have it good comparing to others that are produced to.... meet certain criterias of... human preference .

Dick Cheney hunts. He doesn't even fit a matador's suit. Cheney shoots birds that are released just before he shoots, for his hunting pleasures. He would not survive a bull even in an arena. I don't know about you, but I'd call hunting Cheney a wimp, and a highly trained matador less of a wimp.

Besides, bulls are bastards. They deserve to die just like any other animal deserves to die. We need to show these animals who the boss is. Animals do not have the right to live anymore than humans.

It's hypocricy to say that this bullfighting business is so cruel and then go eat some meat bought from the store. LIke that was a humane act from the producing part, because that's what people usually worry about, the pain an animal goes through when facing death. But the bull gets to fight and maim the killers, plus at least they're treated with the respect of a battle, and if the sword hits the spot, the death is pretty much instant anyway. I'd consider that, a good execution by matador, a much better and less painful than the tazing jerks.

People think it's not really the same but how does it differ? How many cows are slaughtered because we like to eat their meat? How many bulls are killed in bullfights every year? Measure the pain factor as well, it's not much different. And that's why it's hypocricy.

[jhfkgkfdvjk]

Buuuuut.. I do understand that it's seen as cruel and unnecessary. Then again, lots of things are unnecessary and cruel. At least bullfight brings entertainment and excitement to many people, every single bull, whereas my evening with few beers adn 20 chicken wings ... well count the legs, that's to satisfy one beer drinking ogre .

But I'm thinking we need some more variables in this bullfighting game. Let's put in 3 bulls, 2 matadors and none of those helping guys who come in to distract the bulls if the matador gets into trouble, so no help for matadors. I think this is only fair.

Now, 3 vs 2, and throw in few guys with spears and a tiger. The spear guys only gets to fight the tiger and the matadors fight the bulls, but of course team strategy is allowed. Then we could have like... sudden blackouts for 5 seconds etc, just to make it more exciting. Bear fights, we could have bear fights, I mean bear vs. human. The hu man shouldn't get a sword, just a pipe and some chain, maybe rollerskates, make it an asphalt surface.

[Niobaralegra]

So, you admit you are still cheering for the bull.

[ådrrraj]

You're equal opportunity when cheering for death then?

[ExelePlavisseu]

I would be Pro Bull fighting if the Bulls do it voluntarily (knowing about the consequences if the Matador wins) and have a real chance of winning and surviving the fight.

Of course also no pressure sould bne applied into their decisiion wether to fight or not, i.e. if they don´tfight it shouldn´t have any negative consequences.

If these preconditions are met it may be truely a fair and manly fight

[Paiblyelaxy]

What an idiotic and perverted sport. It's more honest to just go after ants with a magnifying glass. Sure, there's no element of personal risk there, but how does risk to yourself make it better? If you hurt things for fun, you're a jerk. If you hurt things for fun and expose yourself to danger along the way, you're a stupid jerk. Valor only counts when directed towards a worthwhile end.

[TaliaJack]

Originally posted by Pekka
Sloww, hunting is less wimpy when the hunter attacks a bear with a sword or a knife.

Bring me one example of this happening.
You don't even have to argue that it's the norm. Just bring one example.

[NerbuitW]

Originally posted by Proteus_MST
I would be Pro Bull fighting if the Bulls do it voluntarily (knowing about the consequences if the Matador wins) and have a real chance of winning and surviving the fight. He does get tosurvive if he provides the crowd with an exceptional performance.

[Unhappu]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
As far as I know that doesn't happen Sloww. Mainly because it would make for a bad show for the crowd. Then you need to learn facts before you speak.
I've seen "fights". My statement is true, and I stand by my opinion.

And Pekka, whatever.

[TimoDass]

Originally posted by SlowwHand
Then you need to learn facts before you speak.
I've seen "fights". My statement is true, and I stand by my opinion. I don't know what kind of low rent thing you've been watching but stabbing them half dead most certainly isn't par for the course for these things.

[xsVfF9Em]

Let's not leave out toreadors who plant the banderillaa.








Yes, matadors are so macho.

[bestonlinepharmasy2]

That's done to piss off the bull, Sloww. He's not being stabbed 1/2 to death as you say.

[gugqgbyzlp]

Yes because you're simply wrong, this is done to make the bull aggressive.

This isn't killing the bull or making it half dead. Is it cruel? Yeah, I think this is the cruel part. I hope they wouldn't do that, I wish the matador was alone and had to do everything by himself. But that doesnt' change the fact that the bull isnt' half dead or even seriously wounded in that.

[irrelaAnnekly]

I'm an idiot because the bulls aren't half dead or because it's for making the bull more aggressive, or I'm an idiot because I believe it takes courage to be a matador, and much much more courage than for example shooting some animal with a rifle?

[Suvuseh]

The only thing I see odd is that you also root for the animal. It may as well be 2 people fighting to the death.