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No.

That's it? Kuci says no..and you believe him?
Buy it with no O.S. and load XP, then wait 5 years.

Originally posted by SlowwHand
That's it? Kuci says no..and you believe him?
Buy it with no O.S. and load XP, then wait 5 years. I accept what anyone says regarding comps. http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...lies/smile.gif

What you suggest requires me to actually do something besides load a game. That's bad, I could blow something up.

The other option is to buy a Gateway on which one can have XP loaded for an additional $60 I think.

When you go through all the steps where you customize the components, just select a real graphics card instead of the Intel chip.

New computers??
Jet setting across the Pacific??
Just how much are you managing to embezzle from that casino, anyway?? http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...ilies/wink.gif

I know how you feel. http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...lies/frown.gif
Barbara Harris had a wonderful line in "Who is Harry Kellerman and Why is He Saying Those Horrible Things About Me:"

They say time is a thief that comes in the night. It isn't. It's an embezzler. It steals and you don't even realize you've been stolen from.

Civ 4 works fine on my integrated graphics. And my model is 1.5 years old.

JM
(admittedly, larger maps slow down..)

IG? Ahh, Intel Graphics, yes?

Originally posted by Lancer
IG? Ahh, Intel Graphics, yes? Integrated, I'd imagine.

Originally posted by Adagio


It wouldn't cause you any problems, but it wouldn't run as smooth as if you were using WinXP instead. Switching from XP to Vista forced me to turn off AA

I'd say stay with XP unless you have a very good reason to use Vista
Dell doesn't offer it anymore but they do offer this comp in a small size that I can stuff easily into a carry on and bring to the Phils.

I wonder if it will play older games.

Really? That's cool. There's hope.

Yeah, not good.

How about 265mb NVIDIA GForce 8600GT DDR3

That costs extra $100

Or...

265 mb NVIDIA GForce GTS

That's an extra $200http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...ies/scared.gif

Steve Walton does not seem to like the 8600GT (http://www.legionhardware.com/document.php?id=637&p=5). I have no experience with it. Depends on what kind of games you want to play.

The Radeon I mentioned with the 210 is a decent low-end card; I owned a similar one for a while. It will not be able to play some top of the line games, like Supreme Commander or C&C3, well at all. It will work fine on medium settings with Company of Heroes, Doom, Civ4 etc.

The 8600 is DX10, but may not be powerful enough to play future DX10 games except on low settings.

Originally posted by Lancer
I would prefer something that doesn't slow down Civ4 at all and allows me to make any choices within that game that I wish. So I think that lets out the 1300 and therefore the Dell 210 that would fit in my suitcase so nicely. So I'll have to get one that doesn't fit so nice. The other XPS that starts at $999 is the 410 and we've already shot down its card upgrade with the help of Mr Walton.

So, any suggestions Wiglaf? The 8600GT isn't a bad card. I only skimmed the review, but as best I could tell, the reviewer thought the card was bad only as compared to the older model, the 7600, and as a DX10 card. Most DX10 cards aren't going to be worth the price since few games take advantage of them at present..but that does not mean they are bad cards in general, only that their dx10 features are unnecessary.

Other reviews of the card are quite positive...(http://www.xsreviews.co.uk/reviews/g.../msi-8600gt/7/)

Based on what Dell is offering, I'd say that it's actually your best bet (given a ~$1300 budget). The 410 is also available with XP.

Intel® Core™ 2 Duo Processor E6320 (4MB L2 cache,1.86GHz,1066FSB)
Genuine Windows® XP Home Edition with re-installation CD
2GB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 667MHz - 2 DIMMs
320GB Serial ATA 3Gb/s Hard Drive (7200RPM) w/DataBurst Cache™
Single Drive: 16X CD/DVD burner (DVD+/-RW) w/double layer write capability
22 inch E228WFP Widescreen Digital Flat Panel
256MB NVIDIA GeForce 8600GT-DDR3
Integrated 7.1 Channel Audio
Dell USB Keyboard
Dell Optical USB Mouse
13 in 1 Media Card Reader
56K PCI Data Fax Modem


I think this is a good deal. It will run Civ4 and most games at all settings quite well. I'd recommend getting it with XP, though this is up to you..