[15Praxanant]

Did you mean: tomatoes

GM food.

[jeaccatty]

When I read the thread title, I thought that GM tried to power their cars w/ tomatoes.

[bDvYaQfM]

tomatoes

[in4wikiu]

Originally posted by Gibsie
Tomatoes were improved by GM technology years and years ago, if the public are still scared of 'em I can't see better taste having much difference. Aside from all other discussion: I know of 2 failed attempts to establish GM tomatoes on the market, and IIRC, there are no GM tomatoes on the European market at all, I'm not sure about the US, but despite early attempts, it seems there was no breakthrough until now - we'll see what happens with the new one.

[Adollobdeb]

Tomato

[Arbinknit]

Let's look at the hippies and stupid idiots come and destroy this thing as well. Let's a) let them blame everyone (but themselves) for starving the world and then b) let them throw firebombs and everything else to stop GM food being deployed anywhere.

I seriously wouldn't lose any sleep if a herd of these idiots were to be shot dead.

[DuesTyr]

Yeah... The EU can have their stem cells and we'll take killer tomatos!

[Rchzygnc]

Originally posted by General Ludd
Homogenous crops

GM

Local plants
local food
Diversity of genes
Diversity of food
People starving

[BarBoss]

...just go to a farmer's market, for crying out loud. If people were serious about stopping global warming they'd start buying local foods in season instead of these resorting to ridiculously convoluted schemes to get around nature. They aren't, of course, so they'll genetically modify vegetables to taste good even after they've been hauled across the country in a (hybrid?) eighteen-wheeler.

Good tomatoes, like good corn and grilled meat, just give us something to look forward to each summer. If you absolutely can't wait, there's a fellow at our local FM who grows tomatoes in his greenhouse year-round. They're not quite fresh summer quality, but they're better than store-bought by a long shot. Get some local produce.

[Soypopetype]

Originally posted by Wernazuma III


Aside from all other discussion: I know of 2 failed attempts to establish GM tomatoes on the market, and IIRC, there are no GM tomatoes on the European market at all, I'm not sure about the US, but despite early attempts, it seems there was no breakthrough until now - we'll see what happens with the new one. Well yes that is what I was saying... and because previous attempts failed, I doubt that these new GM tomatoes will have any better luck.

[Stacypettlerr]

Originally posted by Japher
Yeah... The EU can have their stem cells and we'll take killer tomatos! Bush has certainly ****ed America on steam cell research. States like California can help advance American science via their funding of stem cell research but without the billions in Federal research dollars we will fall behind Asia and Europe. As a result the big blockbuster therapies will come from those parts of the world and US stock holders will be left out of that profit bonanza.

[sleepergun]

Originally posted by Elok
...just go to a farmer's market, for crying out loud. If people were serious about stopping global warming they'd start buying local foods in season instead of these resorting to ridiculously convoluted schemes to get around nature. I like your enthusiasm but you've got your facts muggled up. The biggest portion of our GHG output is from basic electricity production and heating. Going after where food is produced helps but only a little. It's like a guy who's spending hundreds of dollars a week to much but who thinks he'll balance his budget but no longer buying $0.25 worth of bubble gum a day. You need to go after the big expenses if you want to see big changes.

[Rtebydou]

Originally posted by General Ludd





**** the poor and hungry.

[karaburatoreror]

The poor and hungry don't "win in the market place of ideas" Rather funny that Oerdin compares me to the RIAA while he talks about a market place of ideas.

[Pheddytrourry]

Originally posted by Oerdin
I like your enthusiasm but you've got your facts muggled up. The biggest portion of our GHG output is from basic electricity production and heating. Going after where food is produced helps but only a little. It's like a guy who's spending hundreds of dollars a week to much but who thinks he'll balance his budget but no longer buying $0.25 worth of bubble gum a day. You need to go after the big expenses if you want to see big changes. I'm actually not all that bothered about GW, just appalled by the sensibilities some people have. It's far simpler to just buy the stuff locally in season, and I doubt genetic modification can make tomatoes shipped across the country as plump and juicy as real summer tomatoes. They're inferior foods (this goes double for those $%#@ "red delicious" apples), and we're essentially spraying cologne on dog crap with this GM deal. Genetic technology is too powerful, and has too much potential, to be wasted like this.

[Eviftilia]

Originally posted by Elok


I'm actually not all that bothered about GW, just appalled by the sensibilities some people have. It's far simpler to just buy the stuff locally in season, and I doubt genetic modification can make tomatoes shipped across the country as plump and juicy as real summer tomatoes. They're inferior foods (this goes double for those $%#@ "red delicious" apples), and we're essentially spraying cologne on dog crap with this GM deal. Genetic technology is too powerful, and has too much potential, to be wasted like this. It helps for people in those places where there really isn't that much growing locally in season.

[sabbixsweraco]

Don't you live in a city?

[t78VPkdO]

Originally posted by Elok
I'm actually not all that bothered about GW, just appalled by the sensibilities some people have. It's far simpler to just buy the stuff locally in season, and I doubt genetic modification can make tomatoes shipped across the country as plump and juicy as real summer tomatoes. They're inferior foods (this goes double for those $%#@ "red delicious" apples), and we're essentially spraying cologne on dog crap with this GM deal. Genetic technology is too powerful, and has too much potential, to be wasted like this. I like locally grown goods because I think it is good for the local economy and I have six heirloom tomato plants in my backyard (each is a different type). But the claim that commercial produce is dog crap with calogne on it just doesn't stand up. Study after study shows they're nutritious and that there is no difference between organic and traditionally farmed produce. The difference is all marketing a perception and not scientific.

[8cyVn4RJ]

You're just going to follow the traditional rich white ******* approach by trying to rob them of the chance to end hunger in their home countries and not letting them leave. They would have to stop breeding like rabbits and pretending there is anything important enough to fight over in Africa before that happens.

Of course since their soldiers are children, the first solves the second.

[Liskaspexia]

...nutritionally, maybe. But you can't tell me that the crap they shovel out of the supermarket is anywhere near as good taste, texture or freshness-wise as the stuff my dad brings home from the farmer's market every weekend. My tongue still works, and I know that it's inferior. If your homegrown tomatoes taste the same as supermarket variety, you're doing something wrong.

BTW, I didn't say anything about "organic"; organic is meaningless to me. The advantage to locally-grown is that it's bred for flavor and not for being able to withstand getting trucked around for hundreds of miles. Also it's not frozen for transport and you can eat it more or less fresh off the plant. I don't care if you grow it with eight dozen kinds of pesticides and fertilizers provided it's a good variety and I can get it fresh.