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Old 06-14-2007, 07:41 AM   #1
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Default So this is global warming is it.. 9c maximum, coldest test match, -3c in Scotland
This is actually good news. If the climate models are getting things wrong so soon after their forecasts, the apocalypse for in 50 years time can be discounted.

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Old 06-14-2007, 07:44 AM   #2
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the ice is melting, cold fresh water is pouring into the N Atlantic keeping y'all cool

or not
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Old 06-14-2007, 01:32 PM   #3
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Originally posted by Doddler
*waits for Mobe to call La Nina* No. I'll just laugh at your childish reasoning that even if for example in a given year it was unseasonably hot for 364 years of the year, you'd jump on the one cold day as proof the theory was wrong...
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Old 06-14-2007, 02:32 PM   #4
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Doddler is awesome. You can explain that averages are different from absolute temperatures a million times and he's still to dense to grasp the concept.
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Old 06-14-2007, 07:07 PM   #5
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Well I'm hoping it all balances out...
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Old 06-14-2007, 07:51 PM   #6
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Global Warming leads to an ice age?
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Old 06-14-2007, 08:03 PM   #7
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Originally posted by Japher
Global Warming leads to an ice age? Yes, and not just in Europe. Fresh water is less dense then salt water so if you get large quantities of Fresh water entering the oceans it take a long time to mix. In fact cold fresh water is still less dense then warm salt water so the gulf stream is denser then melting glacier water off of the Greenland Ice Sheet or the Artic ice caps. The end result is that instead of warm water being transmitted to Europe from the gulf stream you have a large body of cold water. This creates massive climate cooling and results in a chain reaction where you get a mini-ice age or possibly a real ice age.

Depending upon how bad the cooling is it will spill over to other areas and as snow builds up you will find the entire northern hemisphere experiencing cooling due to the build up of ice.
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Old 06-14-2007, 08:54 PM   #8
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Weather != climate.

Talking about strange weather, it's been absurdly wet around here this spring.
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Old 06-15-2007, 07:59 AM   #9
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Didn't you see the "Day After?" Global warming means it gets colder. I saw it, and the 3 "hurricanes" as the mechanism was

The Gulfstream doesn't shut down, it migrates north and south. The air masses/winds coming off North America keep W Europe warmer. Ice advances are driven by orbital cycles, not cold fresh water entering the oceans. Thanks to the fact the Earth reached its maximum tilt ~7,000 years ago and is still closer to the max than the minimum, the northern hemisphere is experiencing warmer weather. When the tilt is near the minimum, then the ice sheets grow. Fluctuations, like the mini ice age, may have several causes which include melting ice and volcanic activity, but the motor driving the ice age is bigger than where warm Atlantic water starts sinking.

regardless of what we do to the atmosphere today, people will need a greenhouse atmosphere when the Earth's tilt approaches the minimum in a few thousand years.
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Old 06-15-2007, 01:43 PM   #10
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This is why they call it Climate Change rather than global warming these days.
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