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Old 05-18-2007, 05:21 PM   #1
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Estonia > Russia x infinity
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Old 05-18-2007, 05:26 PM   #2
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Originally posted by Colon™
European Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso has told Russia that any problems it has with an individual EU state are problems with the whole bloc.

About bloody time somebody said it.
So why didn't someone say that when Bush was denouncing France and Germany as enemies of the USA?
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Old 05-18-2007, 05:31 PM   #3
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Originally posted by Oerdin
How can Russia seriously claim to be a free country when it restricts the movement of its own people in addition to the Press? If you're in the opposition or if you are a member of the domestic press which isn't controlled by the Kremlin then you get banned from even getting on a plane and going to the city where the summit is held? WTF? In the UK courts have been used to silence and bankrupt journalists for saying the wrong thing, and miners have in the past been prevented from moving around the country.
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Old 05-18-2007, 05:34 PM   #4
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Originally posted by Cort Haus


So why didn't someone say that when Bush was denouncing France and Germany as enemies of the USA? This was an intra-atlantic alliance row. Doesn't count.
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Old 05-18-2007, 05:40 PM   #5
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Originally posted by Saras


This was an intra-atlantic alliance row. Doesn't count. Fine. So we can freely reiterate, they just deprive themselves from our finest Bordeaux.
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Old 05-18-2007, 05:42 PM   #6
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Oh great. The Milosevic apologist has turned into a Putin apologist as well.
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Old 05-18-2007, 05:47 PM   #7
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Originally posted by Colon™
Oh great. The Milosevic apologist has turned into a Putin apologist as well. Let's stick to the issues and leave the mud on the floor, shall we?
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Old 05-18-2007, 05:48 PM   #8
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Originally posted by Cort Haus


Let's stick to the issues and leave the mud on the floor, shall we? Waitaminute. The freedom fries campaign is sticking to the issue?
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Old 05-18-2007, 05:50 PM   #9
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Originally posted by Cort Haus
Are there not regular trans-atlantic trade and tariff spats, though - at govermnent level.

Let me guess, that's different. Let me know when one side embargos the other.

As for governments negotiating and suing each other over trade disputes... Yes, that is normal and the courts hash it out according to international treaties. That's hugely different from how Russia has embargoed certain EU members.
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Old 05-18-2007, 05:52 PM   #10
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The Freedom Fries thing was a couple of Republican loons pandering to Fox News because they thought it would get them votes. All they actually did was order the Congressional cafeteria to rename French Fries Freedom Fries for that cafeteria only. It was completely retarded and most Americans had a good laugh at how stupid those Republicans are and they became a laughing stock.
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Old 05-18-2007, 05:58 PM   #11
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Originally posted by Oerdin
The Freedom Fries thing was a couple of Republican loons pandering to Fox News because they thought it would get them votes. All they actually did was order the Congressional cafeteria to rename French Fries Freedom Fries for that cafeteria only. It was completely retarded and most Americans had a good laugh at how stupid those Republicans are and they became a laughing stock. Actually my friends and I were in Sanford Florida about a year ago looking for a place to eat when we came across a dingy little restaurant that had it's menu posted on the window. We were going to eat there until we saw they served Freedom Fries and Freedom toast. We had a good laugh, then ended up eating in the less retarded pizza place next door.
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Old 05-18-2007, 06:06 PM   #12
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Then the owner of that little place is a certified Fox News watching loon.
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Old 05-18-2007, 06:06 PM   #13
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Originally posted by BeBro
I want my freedomwurst Liberty salad, is what Sauerkraut became in 1917. Long precedents.
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Old 05-18-2007, 06:12 PM   #14
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Originally posted by Cort Haus


In the UK courts have been used to silence and bankrupt journalists for saying the wrong thing, Not a huge fan of UK libel laws, but anyone on any side of an issue can use them. Not quite the same thing as Putins campaign to take control of broadcasting, let alone the alleged hits on journalists.

Oddly despite UKs widely noted lack of press freedom, ive been unable to find a major UK media outlet on the web that is consistently supportive of New Labour. Everyone is either leftie (Guardian, Indy, New Statesman, etc, etc) or Tory (Times, Telegraph, Economist, etc)
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Old 05-18-2007, 06:23 PM   #15
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my impression has been that in the UK one can find a rich person or org on almost any side of most issues. Perhaps even more so than here.
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Old 05-18-2007, 07:12 PM   #16
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Illegal immigrants in the US have 10x the freedom of Russian citizens in Russia. Fact.
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Old 05-18-2007, 07:18 PM   #17
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Originally posted by DanS
When was it that you stopped beating your wife, again? I'm not married. Have you stopped beating yours yet?
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Old 05-18-2007, 07:34 PM   #18
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Hmmm... Must have missed that story. Linky?
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Old 05-18-2007, 08:25 PM   #19
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That was a couple of weeks ago. Gotta spread out the ridiculousness, apparently.

It surprises me that the EU hadn't taken a tougher line with Russia re Estonia.

By the way, is Schroeder still involved with that Russian natural gas pipeline company that was to bypass Eastern EU members?
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Old 05-18-2007, 10:16 PM   #20
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What do you mean Vagabond? Poland and the Baltic trio ARE part of EU. I think that's kind of the point with the thread title as well.
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