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Old 04-28-2007, 09:48 PM   #21
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They've also made the claim that organic food was better for you. Claiming the pesticide residue was so bad that you'd catch cancer if you didn't buy organic. It's a BS claim.
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Old 04-29-2007, 03:34 PM   #22
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Organic meat is also less likely to be contaminated with feces or in the case of chicken, really nasty stuff. Generally speaking, however, organic food has a noticeably superior taste. Organic eggs and milk are so much better than the non-organic kinds, and have much longer shelf lives too for some reason.
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Old 04-29-2007, 06:15 PM   #23
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In the U.S., Stewart, our chickens are generally cooled via dunking in water vats. This allows bacteria from one animal to get into all of the others. The end result is, that raw chicken in the U.S. is toxic and you must thoroughly clean your kitchen with bleach each time you prepare the stuff. Almost 80% of U.S. chickens have lysteria, campelobacter, salmonella, etc. (sp?). Organic chickens are frequently air cooled, meaning no cross contamination.

One of the first things Bush did when selected was to cut the number of staff in the USDA meat inspection crews. Very little of our meat is inspected anymore, and the presence of feces in the meat is no longer sufficient grounds for tossing the carcass. Now feces must be viscus and "roapy" (whatever that means) and easily visible for contaminated meat to be rejected.

Organic foods, however, must undergo much more rigorous inspection, especially those that adhere to voluntary standards. Organic meat is simply safer.
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Old 04-29-2007, 06:51 PM   #24
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It doesn't make the statement that organic meat and poultry is safer less true. The heavy regulation of organic produce is a response to the lack of regulation and enforcement in non-organic produce. That heavy inspection regime was a demand by the organic producers themselves.
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Old 04-29-2007, 07:42 PM   #25
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Originally posted by Doddler


BS

Why do lefties fall for this stuff. Che is correct. Organic milk does last longer, and organic eggs certainly do taste better than regular eggs. You see see the difference in the yolk color, and firmness of the whites.
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Old 04-29-2007, 08:09 PM   #26
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If indeed it does last longer then it seems the reason is most people who buy organic also attempt to buy locally grown so that on average there is a shorter time from the field to the store where as some of the large corporate producers might ship everything in from thousands of miles away. So it doesn't really last longer; it just has more of its usable life left since less time was spent traveling.
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Old 04-30-2007, 02:26 AM   #27
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I think the only milk I have bought recently was Horizon. I try not to drink much milk though.

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Old 04-30-2007, 07:01 AM   #28
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I don't like it, I do like chocolate milk though, and ice cream. And I love cheese.

Something in regular mocha's messes with one of my lymph nodes though. It doesn't happen with DeCaf Soy Lattes, so I hvae been staying awya from the milk, but it could be the mocha or the caffiene.

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Old 04-30-2007, 09:40 AM   #29
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Originally posted by chegitz guevara
In the U.S., Stewart, our chickens are generally cooled via dunking in water vats. This allows bacteria from one animal to get into all of the others. The end result is, that raw chicken in the U.S. is toxic and you must thoroughly clean your kitchen with bleach each time you prepare the stuff. Almost 80% of U.S. chickens have lysteria, campelobacter, salmonella, etc. (sp?). Rather than make the obvious Upper Volta with ICBMs comment, I think I'd like some reference for this claim.
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Old 05-01-2007, 03:54 AM   #30
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Originally posted by Provost Harrison
I love milk - I seem to get through absolutely gallons of the stuff... I hope you're on the skimmed stuff..
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Old 05-01-2007, 11:45 PM   #31
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Originally posted by Provost Harrison
Hell no, and why should I be? Cuts out all that rubbishy dairy fat..
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Old 05-01-2007, 11:58 PM   #32
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Originally posted by Doddler


Cuts out all that rubbishy dairy fat.. Cuts out any hint it may be milk, too!
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Old 05-02-2007, 12:16 AM   #33
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Originally posted by Doddler

Drink cream then

Semi skimmed has 48kcal per 100ml, whole has 67...for the amount of milk I actually drink I am not going to worry too much about this...
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Old 05-02-2007, 12:25 AM   #34
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Originally posted by Provost Harrison




Semi skimmed has 48kcal per 100ml, whole has 67...for the amount of milk I actually drink I am not going to worry too much about this... And skimmed has 34cal per 100ml and all the good stuff.
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Old 05-02-2007, 12:41 AM   #35
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Originally posted by b etor


QFT! What does this WFT mean?
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Old 05-02-2007, 12:46 AM   #36
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Meadow Brook skim milk
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Old 05-02-2007, 12:55 AM   #37
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Whole milk
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Skim

(Half-and-half )
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