[911_993_911]

Good, they're great tanks. But I don't know if they saw any action.

[cenRealliat]

Good things, for Canadian soldier!

hope it will help in Afghanistan!

[SoOW2LeA]

@Drake:

[RlUbQU3R]

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
What does Canada need tanks for? They wouldn't last long in the extremely unlikely event of war with the US and I'm not sure Canada has the transport planes needed to quickly ship them anywhere else. Investment in the Air Force and Navy would seem to make more sense... They plan to invade! What else could it be? Now that we're occupied elsewhere they see their chance. We all better start learning to speak Canadian, eh?

[zzbust]

Finally retiring the suicide bomber force?

[jackie Obrian]

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
What does Canada need tanks for? They wouldn't last long in the extremely unlikely event of war with the US and I'm not sure Canada has the transport planes needed to quickly ship them anywhere else. Investment in the Air Force and Navy would seem to make more sense... For things like fighting in Afghanistan?

And as pointed out, the current government has ideas about making the CFs a more robust force.

It should be discussed at the SC.

[Gozmand]

The canon, and the support it can lend to infantry in tough spots.

We rushed L2s to the theatre after the rough time we had in the fist phase of Medusa. The local commanders asked for abilities to provide support fire under their command, and for once they got what they wanted.

It seems the current Canadian govt is serious about winning, or at least losing as few Canucks as possible.

[timgreyuvcz]

Thanks for your concern for our bugetary situation.

Forgive us if we care more about 'overkilling' the enemy and saving Canadian lives than a saving a few dollars.

[infarrelisam]

Forgive us if we care more about 'overkilling' the enemy and saving Canadian lives than a saving a few dollars.

Christ, you can be such a melodramatic little *****...

It might also have something to do with unfortunate results when the USAF is anywhere near our troops.

Minimising the need for calling in your drugged out pilots resulting in the bombing our own guys might have something to do with it.

Having enough planes to do your own air support would be the most obvious way to solve this problem. New tanks aren't going to solve the problem; our planes can blow the **** out of them too...

[occalmnab]

They can't tell our pilots what to do, though.

[NicolasOL]

@ Drake.

Nope. All they can do is look up and say " Ah ****! Not again!".

[smokeberly]

RAWR!

[AromeWahmaron]

Cant Canada make many nukes relatively easily and in a small period of time?

Yank cities are near, so that makes things easier.
The USA cant conquer Canada.

[ligeplodore]

I've still not worked out what this thread was meant to be about

[AlexDatig]

Originally posted by notyoueither


DC isn't very close... About 12000 miles way I think..

[StitsVobsaith]

I don't care one way or the other. Just doesn't seem very useful given Canada's place in the world.

[georgshult]

The Strykers in Iraq have performed pretty well against IEDs; I don't see why a LAV III would be any more vulnerable. They also provide "immediate and accurate fire support", just like a tank. Seems like the only advantage the tank has is improved ability to break through mud walls. Is that really worth the extra money and logistical hassle?

[Peter Hill]

Correct.

It would be foolish for Canada to tailor its forces to one specific form or warfare. And lets not forget that the first step in the force continuum is PRESENCE, if you look like a hard target then the enemy might just go look for an easier one. Heavy armor still has its place in conflicts like Afghanistan.

[id2008]

Somewhat. Not all RPGs are the same. Not all are armor peircing more importantly.

But this is the same critisism that they made of the Humvee and it is just as ridiculous. The humvee was nothing more than a transport vehicle on the model of the WWII jeep. Now obviously they made some effort to make it better with a little armor and weapons upgrades, but that is about it. It wasn't designed or supposed to repel RPGs.

Same with the Stryker. It isn't a tank nore was it designed to be, so why does peole get all up in arms when it doesn't have the capabilites of a tank. What the Stryker does do is give you speed, mobility, and versitility.

[Mister.levitra]

Hm, how to judge.

On one hand, Oerdin is an army guy and Patty is navy.

OTOH, Oerdin is crazy.

But then, consider that Oerdin was a science major and Patty is one of those liberal artsy flakes.

Damn. Decisions decisions.