Originally posted by Cort Haus
Molly, you're from Cov!

I spent a couple of years living there, have many fond memories, and still visit it. Whereabouts did you live? Hmm.

have many fond memories, and still visit it.
The first I don't have, the second I haven't done since 1985.

Hillfields and Gosford Green. Stoney Stanton Road and Gulson Road, to be precise.

(9) The Music

I was thinking of the some of the Jewish folk tunes that the violinist at the Trojka restaurant at Primrose Hill plays on a weekend.

I don't know what any of them are called, though. :shrug:

Originally posted by Cort Haus
I was thinking of the some of the Jewish folk tunes that the violinist at the Trojka restaurant at Primrose Hill plays on a weekend.

I don't know what any of them are called, though. :shrug: Have you heard the Lost Jewish Music of Transylvania ?

This is a fine performance of some beautiful Old World Jewish melodies. As the very complete liner notes explain, most Eastern European musicians in the pre-Holocaust world knew both Jewish and non-Jewish music, because they would play at all kinds of events for both communities. Sadly, the Jewish musicians who played this music perished in the Holocaust, but the music was remembered by non-Jewish musicians and later collected. Hence the reference to "lost" music. However, some of it is not really as "lost" as the notes imply. For example, "Ani Maamin" is well-known among Jews in the USA and is almost always sung at Holocaust Remembrance Day services. The words (not sung here -- the CD is instrumental) are from Maimonides (12th century) and the tune is attributed to the Breslover Hasidim, whose 18th-century Rebbe, Nachman of Breslov, taught them never to despair under any circumstances. Because of this theme, the tune later became popular in the concentration camps and among the resistance fighters. Hence the current association with the Holocaust.

There are other pieces on this CD that I've heard at Jewish weddings, long before this CD came out. In short, the music may have been lost in Eastern Europe, but much of it had already crossed the Atlantic before the Holocaust. I found myself wondering if the ethnographers who collected this were familiar with the American Jewish community. Nevertheless, what makes this CD special is the performance itself, which is based on the Hungarian/gypsy style, rather than the "Americanized" versions. It's definitely worth buying.
http://www.amazon.com/Maramaros-Lost.../dp/B000000625


Marta Sebestyen also features on Towering Inferno's 'Kaddish'.

Originally posted by molly bloom
He's quite well-known, you know. That I know very well - he was paranoid himself about separatists. http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...ies/tongue.gif

Originally posted by Cort Haus
Thanks for the link, Molly. http://www.discussworldissues.com/im...ons/icon14.gif That's the kind of thing I had in mind, and The Rooster Is Crowing in particular reminded me of some of the tunes I hear at that restaurant. I could almost taste the blinis. http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...es/biggrin.gif Blinis, sour cream & caviare.

Coulibiac. Pierogi.


O lunch, where art thou ?

The ones I've had are cabbage leaves stuffed with meat and rice and served in a scrumptious sauce.

I'm now so hungry my stomach is eating my face, as a Moroccan once said to me.

Aaah.

I wonder what golabki are called in Rumanian, then ?

My friend (who made them for me) had them made for him by his Rumanian step-mother, and he called them pierogi.


That explains it.


They were delicious in any case.

Originally posted by lord of the mark


gefilte kraut, in Yiddish. A speciality of my Mother in Law. I really enjoy cooked cabbage.

I have a great Dutch recipe for white cabbage cooked in a creamy curry sauce.

I like sausage cooked in sauerkraut too.

So when you said Pierogi, Molly, you weren't thinking of this:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...2px-Ruskie.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierogi

Which is what made me think of Pelmini, only larger.

http://content.answers.com/main/cont.../77/Pelmen.jpg

Originally posted by Cort Haus
So when you said Pierogi, Molly, you weren't thinking of this:
Indeed.

Those pierogi look just like some steamed dumplings you get for dim sum- same shape and edge crimping, but more translucent.

I think I have had pierogi in borscht though- up in the mountains in Victoria.

There were a lot of Eastern European immigrants working on hydro-electric schemes in Victoria and New South Wales post-WWII.

When I, briefly, lived in Baltimore as a child (5th grade) my parents used to take us to this Hebrew restaurant which served served those cabage things. They were good.

Originally posted by MrFun



sounds gross http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...lies/crook.gif but tastes good.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Czernina

another soup with blood

there is also a polish soup made of oxen's bowels, now that is disturbing. I used to vomit at thought of it (this and watermelon).