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Old 03-29-2007, 11:53 PM   #1
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Default Drinking in 'moderation'
What does this have to do with black people?
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Old 03-29-2007, 11:56 PM   #2
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Ok, close this thread.

Spec.
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Old 03-30-2007, 12:01 AM   #3
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I prefer not to poison myself with vile beverages.

Tea is my only vice...No sugar though!

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Old 03-30-2007, 12:26 AM   #4
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I dont drink much anymore.

when i DO drink, i prefer strong-as-hell Vodka that i will just take shots with and get so totally smashed that i will forget everything i will do the next 6-12 hours afterwards...
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Old 03-30-2007, 12:32 AM   #5
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For regular drinking, one glass of red wine a day is recommanded. Good for health. However, I rarely drink on a daily basis (and when I do, I'm not sure it's in moderation )

I guess one glass of beer a day is okay as well, no problem there.

For party drinking, I wouldn't know what "reasonable" is. I actually never wondered
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Old 03-30-2007, 01:07 AM   #6
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Originally posted by Spiffor
For regular drinking, one glass of red wine a day is recommanded. Good for health. However, I rarely drink on a daily basis (and when I do, I'm not sure it's in moderation )

I guess one glass of beer a day is okay as well, no problem there.

For party drinking, I wouldn't know what "reasonable" is. I actually never wondered And this is why the French wine industry is going down the tubes. It used to be, that every French person would have a glass of wine with lunch and one or two with dinner.
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Old 03-30-2007, 01:42 AM   #7
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Originally posted by Dauphin
My idea of drinking in moderation is drinking enough to feel happy, but not so much that I make a complete *** and arse of myself.

If I drink, it;s hardly every in moderation,

Thankfully I only drink about twoce a week. Only one more sesh left for you this week.
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Old 03-30-2007, 02:19 AM   #8
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Originally posted by Asher
What does this have to do with black people?


You do have your moments, Asher.
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Old 03-30-2007, 02:23 AM   #9
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Originally posted by VetLegion
Says who? I've hear it repeated often enough on telly, in health-related programs. Apparently, it has been found by doctors.

Edit: found something recent. From Le Monde, 1st/03/2007

Selon une étude néerlandaise publiée mercredi 28 février, boire de l'alcool quotidiennement et modérément, en particulier du vin rouge, augmenterait l'espérance de vie de plusieurs années chez les hommes d'âge mûr. Cette enquête été menée entre 1960 et 2000, dans la ville de Zutphen, dans l'est des Pays-Bas. Un groupe de 1 373 hommes nés entre 1900 et 1920 a été étudié. Les chercheurs ont suivi certains des sujets jusqu'à leur mort et les autres jusqu'en 2000. Les sujets ont été interrogés à sept reprises sur leur consommation d'alccol, de tabac et sur leurs habitudes alimentaires. Les chercheurs ont étudié leur poids et la prévalence des attaques cardiaques, du diabète et du cancer.


Parmi les hommes ayant participé à l'étude, ceux ayant régulièrement bu un peu moins d'un verre de vin par jour ont une espérance de vie de 3,8 ans plus grande que ceux qui se sont abstenus de boire. Les consommateurs d'alcool autre que du vin ont une espérance de vie de 1,6 année plus grande que ceux qui n'ont jamais bu de boisson alcoolisée.

Martinette Streppel, qui a dirigé l'étude, a expliqué que "les effets protecteurs de l'alcool en quantité modeste pourraient s'expliquer par un lien possible avec un accroissement des lipoprotéines à haute densité (HDL) ou le bon cholestérol et une moindre coagulation sanguine".
"UN À DEUX VERRES PAR JOUR, PAS PLUS"

De plus, les buveurs de vin ont une espérance de vie supérieure de deux ans à celle de personnes buvant d'autres boissons alcooliques, selon l'étude. Les effets bénéfiques du vin rouge pourraient s'expliquer par l'action des polyphénols qu'il contient. Il s'agit d'un anti-oxydant puissant qui s'est révélé très efficace dans une récente étude sur des souris pour neutraliser les effets néfastes d'un mauvais régime alimentaire sur le système cardiovasculaire.

Martinette Streppel conclut que "le principal message est que si vous consommez des boissons alcooliques, faites-le avec modération, un à deux verres par jour, pas plus. Choisissez le vin, car il a un effet bénéfique qui dépasse celui du seul alcool".
A dutch team has surveyed 1373 people born between 1900 and 1920 (the survey had been occuring between 1960 and 2000).
They noticed that those who drank moderately everyday had a life expectancy 3.8 years longer than the others on average. Red wine is particularly good in this regard, because not only does it have the good aspects of alcohol (when drank moderately), it has also specific components that are good for health. Wine-drinkers have, on average, a life expectance longer by 2 years over those who drink another form of alcohol.

The scientists advise one to two glasses of alcohol, preferably red wine, a day.

This study confirms something that is already widely known in France, because any such study tends to get publicity over here
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Old 03-30-2007, 02:23 AM   #10
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A couple of glasses of wine to dinner in the weekends, and possibly a drink or two later in the evening. Other than that, an occational beer with a friend. Something like that.
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Old 03-30-2007, 02:50 AM   #11
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I'm a moderate drinker, because if I'm a light drinker then I'm a lightweight but if I'm a heavy drinker then I'm a alcoholic.
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Old 03-30-2007, 02:56 AM   #12
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BTW my understanding is besides the various compounds found in alcoholic drinks besides alcohol (flavinols, etc), which have their own positive health effects, there is also the positive health effect of alcohol itself. Namely, that alcohol helps to prevent harding of the arteries. Alcohol dehydrates you and causes all your cells to shrink, that is lise, and causes a slight drop in blood pressure along with a moderate thinning of the blood. The shrinking and re-expanding of cells & arteries helps prevent them from harding while the slight drop in blood pressure other effects are also positive to preventing heart attacks.
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Old 03-30-2007, 03:09 AM   #13
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Originally posted by Nikolai


This "Europe" obviously doesn't include Norway. Let me know when you free loading blond oil sheiks of the north finally join the EU.
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Old 03-30-2007, 03:23 AM   #14
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Alcohol lowers testosterone, it's not that good for us blokes.
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Old 03-30-2007, 03:54 AM   #15
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Many people get up in the morning, but the sun doesn't make them. Well, it doesn't physically yank them out of bed and throw them towards the coffee. It's more of a, as was said, correlation.
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Old 03-30-2007, 04:18 AM   #16
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Originally posted by Oerdin


Let me know when you free loading blond oil sheiks of the north finally join the EU. Bah. EU is a lost cause. It probably will either go into pieces from internal problems, or it gets to sort those problems out and become some animal in the Revelation/Apocalypse kind of way.
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Old 03-30-2007, 06:04 AM   #17
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Originally posted by BlackCat
1-3 glasses of red wine per day should be good (red, not white nor beer). Why not beer? I've heard that the latest studies indicate that beer is even more healthful than red wine.
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Old 03-30-2007, 06:09 AM   #18
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I have a related question.

Why does wine taste like crap?

The only time it doesn't taste like crap is if I've had a couple drinks before drinking it. But then, that usually makes me sick mixing wine and other drinks.

wine and tequila got me sick once.
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Old 03-30-2007, 06:14 AM   #19
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Originally posted by Dis
I have a related question.

Why does wine taste like crap?

The only time it doesn't taste like crap is if I've had a couple drinks before drinking it. But then, that usually makes me sick mixing wine and other drinks.

wine and tequila got me sick once. Wine obviously isn't your cup of tea.
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Old 03-30-2007, 06:18 AM   #20
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Originally posted by Dis
I have a related question.

Why does wine taste like crap?

The only time it doesn't taste like crap is if I've had a couple drinks before drinking it. But then, that usually makes me sick mixing wine and other drinks.

wine and tequila got me sick once. Try wine with lemonade, makes it quite nice.
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