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Old 03-15-2007, 06:14 AM   #1
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Default Has There Ever Been a Successful Genocide?
The Germans were, unfortunately, too succesful.

If you mean full extermination of species, there's the dodo bird.
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Old 03-15-2007, 06:19 AM   #2
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Certain north American native tribes.

EDIT: TITTIES!
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Old 03-15-2007, 06:40 AM   #3
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The Hutus seemed to be going at a fair pace, 77% of all Tutsis killed in 100 days.
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Old 03-15-2007, 07:02 AM   #4
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Originally posted by GePap


Well, factually speaking there are Tutsis outside of Rwanda, and in fact neighboring Burundi was at that time and still is ruled by a Tutsi dominated dictatorship that has carried out attrocities against Hutus such as:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burundi_genocide Woeful wording on my part, though actually your facts on Burundi are out of date. A Hutu political party was elected to power almost two years ago
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Old 03-15-2007, 07:18 AM   #5
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We got rid of the Celts quite well.
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Old 03-15-2007, 07:25 AM   #6
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Is it a genocide if a group disappears due to intermarriage with an invading group?

What if the invading group kills the adult men but takes the women and the kids?

I think it is only genocide if group A says lets kill every single member of group B, but maybe my definition is wrong.
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Old 03-15-2007, 07:32 AM   #7
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Originally posted by Doddler
We got rid of the Celts quite well. Good riddance.
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Old 03-15-2007, 11:15 AM   #8
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I've done it dozens, maybe hundreds of times. Goddamn Aztecs
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Old 03-15-2007, 03:59 PM   #9
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Originally posted by Brachy-Pride
Is it a genocide if a group disappears due to intermarriage with an invading group?

What if the invading group kills the adult men but takes the women and the kids?

I think it is only genocide if group A says lets kill every single member of group B, but maybe my definition is wrong. any deliberate mass murder of a religious, cultural, racial or ethnic group is genocide, per the Genocide Convention, if it destroys a significant part of the group. So killing all the adult males would certainly qualify. Whether it would be "successful" by the standards of the OP, I dont know.

"genocide" by forced pressure to assimilate, including intermarriage, rather than murder, is a controversial question. I prefer to keep the definition to murder, myself.
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Old 03-15-2007, 05:08 PM   #10
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Do archaeologists currently believe we exterminated the other hominids, e.g. neanderthals, australopithecines? Or was there supposedly some intermarriage? And do hominids count as people for the sake of this argument? So many questions...
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Old 03-16-2007, 12:39 PM   #11
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Originally posted by Elok
Do archaeologists currently believe we exterminated the other hominids, e.g. neanderthals, australopithecines? Or was there supposedly some intermarriage? And do hominids count as people for the sake of this argument? So many questions... No, we didn't exterminate other homonids. That would require organized action. They were simply outcompeted. Intermarriage between neanderthals and sapiens is impossible, although some archaeologists have tried to prove otherwise. It's been a while so I've forgotten most about it, but I believe the intermarriage thesis is a load of bullshit
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Old 03-19-2007, 11:56 AM   #12
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The Manchu Dynasty became rather fed up with the Dzungars after several raids and rebellions, and seem to have annihilated them.

They are racially different from the indigenous people of mainland Australia, who presumably had earlier eradicated them from the mainland. trev


Or, alternatively, water levels rose and isolated Tasmania from the rest of Australia. Which is why there weren't any dingos in Tassie, for instance.
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