[PerfectCreditForYou]

The US would pwn.

[Promotiona]

It depends a lot on whether China upgrades its nuclear arsenal in the next twenty years. If the balance of nukes stays the same, the US will wipe out China quite easily.

[dxpfmP0l]

A war just between the two seems impossible. But the two being at war as a consequence of a minor member of an alliance beeing attacked by a minor member of the other alliance, that seems more possible. And in that case, the defeat will not seriously weaken the looser.

[EspnaConCam]

1. didnt we do this one a year or two ago?

2. Why do people post would X or Y win a war, without postulating the circumstances of the wars beginning?

I mean d'uh. If we tried to conquer China, wed lose badly. If they tried to invade Hawaii theyd lose, even more badly.

The usual assumption is that the only halfway plausible war scenario is a crisis over Taiwan. At THIS time, the US would probably win (IE we would stop PRC from invading or blockading Taiwan). The question then becomes (became in that last thread) whos more vulnerable to the economic consequnce of loss of trade and investment between the two. Which gets to both A. A discussion of US domestic politics, which is not something we tend to have civilly here and B. The question of who "provoked" the crisis, China or Taiwan. IMHO the US home front would be more resilient if they saw the PRC as more clearly the "aggressor" IE disturbor of the "one China, two societies" status quo.

[piramirra]

Russia would win.

Seriously, if shooting starts, the leaders of the both countries will, in matter of minutes, ask themselves, "wtf are we doing!", and send out peacefeelers. It's just soo stupid.

[satthackacibe]

such a war is impossible. Both countries have too many economic interests in each other.

[MannyLopez]

didn't we get our ass kicked by the chinese in Korea?

granted the U.S. has surpassed the world in technology since then. But still... We got our asses handed to us in Vietnam and Iraq.

[Ternneowns]

true about korea. At first they were kicking our ass. Kind of scary reading the history on that. I can't believe we got routed like that. We had pushed the N. Koreans back pretty far.

[AdipexAdipex]

We will use our fifth columns in Tibet and Xinjiang FTW!

[Filmania]

Sides:

US- EU, most British Commenwealth countries, Japan, S. Korea, Taiwan, and Israel

China- N. Korea and Vietnam

Likely to side with US- Russia along any other Eastern nation with that hasn't joined the EU yet

Likely to side with China- if it is withen the next 10 years, Iran (Iran's government is losing the support and many Iranians are pro US. That number of Iranians is growing quite quickly)

Likely to remain neutral- Latin America and Middle East

Those I have no idea about- Africa and much of South Asia

First of all, this war will be fought in Asia. China will not have the capability to compete with other navies. The war will surely start in Korea. Once war breaks out, most American indutries will likely move to India. This will put many Chinese out of work. America will surly win the air and naval war. China will probably be able to take and hold S. Korea. If China invades Taiwan Japan before western navies can arrive, they will surrender when they cut off from supplies. American airpower will act as a thorn in China's side. Without American industry, the Chinese economy would collapse.

I's easy, US will crush China!

[ChuttyAmult]

True

[repldoinfo]

It is economic and imperialistic competition that has tended to start the wars. I think the two nations are too interdependent for anything to happen.

[zooworms]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker
France was Germany's largest trading partner, IIRC. (Before WWII.) In the just-before-WWII era, this isn't saying very much, though. The breakdown of international trade after Smoot-Hawley, the Great Depression, etc., is probably one of the more important of WWII's contributing factors.

[RgtrsKfR]

Cordell Hull, who helped design Bretton Woods, also believed that trade barriers was the root cause of WWI. While that sounds like a bit of a stretch, it was probably an important factor.

[orillaVar]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
I think he meant before WWI. No.