[Nekas48]

So, do you think Obama should apologize to the black community for slavery? If he feels like he needs to.

[AlexBrith]

Yeah, Genghis Khan was supposed to have sired a horrendously large number of women...

[HQTheodore]

Originally posted by Spiffor

Actually, I'm pretty sure this kind of smear comes directly from his democratic rivals. Precisely. Not only do the repugs have less reason to waste time & effort smearing a whole year before the primaries are decided, but more importantly: why the hell would they bother trying to discredit Obama in the eyes of the black community? It already votes like 90% Dem anyway, so smearing him would only shift votes from one Dem to another. That would do neither good nor harm to the GOP, but I can think of one Dem who would certainly benefit...

[thegamexpertsdotcom]

They're at it again. The Repugs are pushing these little smear peices about Obama and trying to pin Hillary for them.

Then in public, they push and push Obama as the next great leader. For the same reason: they are scared sh*tless by Hillary. Any little way to gnaw at her ankles, and sadly to say, the smear-and-run pieces are having (albeit limited) success.

If it's not clear, these little "Obama owned slaves" and "Obama is an Islamoterrorist" revelations aren't targeting him. They're stupid little bickering nonsense and no one will remember them a few months from now. The goal is that, in the long term, people think that Hillary stooped so low as to try and smear him.

[vasyasvc]

It's all part of Rove's plot, mitchell:

Karl Rove Accused Of Throwing Midterm Elections

The Democrats' resounding midterm election triumph—sweeping both houses of Congress, as well as a majority of state legislatures and governorships—immediately bred suspicion among party leadership that Karl Rove, President Bush's closest adviser and the political mastermind behind Bush's rise to power, was once again pulling the strings.

"Let's not celebrate just yet," Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean said on Nov. 8, shortly after the more closely contested seats were declared in the Democrats' favor. "This decisive Democratic victory could very well be part of an unfathomably brilliant plan of Karl Rove's to position the Republicans for the 2016 elections, and probably beyond. History has shown that the man is an unstoppable evil genius. You can't underestimate him."

Rove, who has consistently proven himself over the last 12 years to be the only person in Washington capable of affecting national elections, refused to comment.

"We were blindsided when he gave us the House, but then Rove really twisted the knife with the Senate victory," CNN's Paul Begala said. "Evidently, he must be five or six steps ahead on the chessboard, executing a strategy we can only guess at."

Political watchdog groups said that Rove left too many obvious clues. They pointed to the breaking of the Mark Foley sex scandal, the Jack Abramoff lobbying scandal, the political downfall of House Majority Leader Tom DeLay, the refusal of embattled Speaker Of The House Dennis Hastert and Secretary Of Defense Donald Rumsfeld to step down, and the deaths of hundreds of U.S. soldiers in Iraq since the 2004 presidential election. Even the escalating civil insurrection in Iraq "sports the trademark Rove touch," in the words of one blogger for the political website The Huffington Post.

"For a little while there, it looked like Rove's nefarious master plan might be undone by Kerry's bungled remarks about the troops, but it succeeded anyway," New York Times columnist Paul Krugman said. "Unless, of course, Kerry's remarks were all part of the plan, too."

Still others have posited a second Rove involvement theory, in which they believe he predicted a Republican victory two weeks' prior to Election Day so he could bet heavily on a Democratic victory and make "an enormous killing in Vegas." They speculate Rove then either kept the winnings for himself or funneled them into a GOP slush fund.

Rove did not return calls concerning these charges.

"Can't people see we're playing right into this man's hands?" Democratic Congressional Campaign Chairman Rep. Rahm Emanuel (D-IL) said. "The fact that he did not address this issue publicly proves his collusion. Leave it to Rove to poison a victory this sweet."

[sauppyshurb]

Now Obama's been reduced to lying in an attempt to tie himself to the civil rights movement and black Americans. From a speech in Selma, AL yesterday...

What happened in Selma, Alabama and Birmingham also stirred the conscience of the nation. It worried folks in the White House who said, “You know, we’re battling Communism. How are we going to win hearts and minds all across the world? If right here in our own country, John, we’re not observing the ideals set fort in our Constitution, we might be accused of being hypocrites.� So the Kennedy’s decided we’re going to do an air lift. We’re going to go to Africa and start bringing young Africans over to this country and give them scholarships to study so they can learn what a wonderful country America is.

This young man named Barack Obama got one of those tickets and came over to this country. He met this woman whose great great-great-great-grandfather had owned slaves; but she had a good idea there was some craziness going on because they looked at each other and they decided that we know that the world as it has been it might not be possible for us to get together and have a child. There was something stirring across the country because of what happened in Selma, Alabama, because some folks are willing to march across a bridge. So they got together and Barack Obama Jr. was born. So don’t tell me I don’t have a claim on Selma, Alabama. Don’t tell me I’m not coming home to Selma, Alabama.

http://hotair.com/archives/2007/03/0...nts-for-selma/

Sounds great, right? It would be, except Obama's father arrived in America in 1959, two years before JFK was inagurated, and Obama himself was born in 1961, four years before Bloody Sunday in Selma...

At least he told the truth about his slaveholding ancestors.

[StevenS]

Drake: he reports, you decide.

The absurdity of this...

It's time to stop worrying and learn to love the game.

-Arrian

[gregmcal]

How long until the real issues are going to be discussed?

[Idonnaink]

I know...

wishful thinking

I just find it hilarious how people on both sides are getting so worked up over stupid crap like this.

[wllsqyuipknczx]

Don't you think it should take less than a year of active campaigning to pick the ****ing candidates? It's silly...

[Nashhlkq]

Originally posted by KrazyHorse
Don't you think it should take less than a year of active campaigning to pick the ****ing candidates? It's silly... Resolves into two pieces. First the time from Iowa and NH to the convention. Second the lead up to NH and Iowa.

First is cause we maintain the fiction that theres a steady buildup from Iowa to NH to the next round, to Calif near the end. To a theoretically contested convention. When in fact all the recent campaings (after 1980( have been resolved well before the convention, usually not long after New Hampshire. The whole primary schedule is anachronistic and messed up, and should be reformed.

Second, is the pre-primary build up. GIVEN that Iowa selects in what, January, AND how important it is (today) its not unreasonable for campaigning to start there in the early fall. The beginning now has to do with building organization, and fund raising. Now public financing should mean you dont need to start early fund raising, but the main candidates are all dispensing with that since they can raise more privately. Organization is important for a new candidate like Obama. Arguably Hilary shouldnt need much time to assemble an org, since she has contacts from 92 and 96. Some say she got in too early, and that was a mistake.

[VINPELA]

That might be effectively what'll happen. A few primaries and caucuses are in January, and then there's Super Early Tuesday on 2/5 that basically decides everything (CA, TX, FL, IL, MI, and NJ are all thinking of moving their primaries to this date).