Obama = slaveowner
 

Don't forget about the cocaine...

I would suspect that LOTS of African Americans have ancestors who were slave holders.

They also have ancestors who were slaves...

I take it you didn't see the thread where we all tested for inherent racism. I was the blackest person on 'Poly. http://www.discussworldissues.com/im...ons/icon14.gif

Yeah, but unless you're a lot darker than your avatar Obama beats you by default.

Blackness has nothing to do with skin color.

News to me. What determines blackness, then?

What determines blackness, then? Emissivity

So being black is about inheriting a neurotic grudge? How is that important? My ancestors didn't fight in the Revolutionary War, but I'm still American. I doubt any of them ever owned slaves (black slaves in America, that is), but I'm still white.

And the fact is, you can't visually tell the difference between descendant-of-African-slaves and descendant-of-African-immigrants. If the KKK lynches a guy, it'll be because he's dark. If the cops pull a guy over when he wasn't speeding, it'll be because he's dark. If a kid's raised with the expectation that he'll never do anything but shoot hoops and drink malt liquor, it'll be because he's dark. He could be a pure-blooded Australian Aborigine, but they'll still call him Nigger. Is the black community so dense as to think ancestry means jack?

And the fact is, you can't visually tell the difference between descendant-of-African-slaves and descendant-of-African-immigrants.

Yes you can, depending on where the African immigrants are from in Africa. Obama's half Kenyan, a continent away from the West African Bantu homeland of most of the slaves transported to America.

It appears Elok still doesn't get it. Maybe this chart will help...

the blackness!

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Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
I already predicted that something else was bound to come out about Barack Hussein Obama. Even I'm surprised by this, though... Only a Republican would smear an opponent because of something his great-great-great-great grandfather supposedly did. http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...s/rolleyes.gif

Takes a thief to know one, that's what I say.

Asmodean

Good one, Stephen... http://www.discussworldissues.com/im...ons/icon14.gif

He could run as mixed race

BTW, did we every have a thread on last week's news story about Al Sharpton's ancestors being owned by Strom Thurmon's ancestors?

I don't think so. People are slacking... http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...ons/icon13.gif

but I'll bet most everyone else had a slaveowner back there somewhere. Bill Clinton possibly doesn't have any slave owning ancestors; despite being from the South his family was not by any means wealthy enough. The Bushes probably don't (Connecticut). Reagan and Carter, who knows. Nixon of course had to have ancestors that owned slaves, massacred Indians, and were Pyramid building overseers...I'm beginning the "Path to Power" book about LBJ. IIRC half his family were rich and half poor, and the rich half probably owned slaves. Before that, who knows, I would say 1/2 did and 1/2 didn't. I bet some had ancestors who had indentured servants in colonial times.

But it's all a moot point. While surely we shouldn't chastise a general "sorry for slavery" apology (although some tightasses seem to think that is the End of the World), I don't think any specific person alive today owes any specific person an apology for owning their ancestry.