[Peretool]

Pekka...

i agree. i took down my flag icon because i didnt actually LIVE there, but it is a paradise to me. i will keep my flag empty for now...

[wbeachcomber]

Fantasy Football League, last I knew. I think he's overstating the bonding aspect of it, though.

[dupratac]

Long last Mauritania!

[Fksxneng]

FFL is French Foreign Legion.

Siro, right, the question I was wondering more was that why the unit cohesion would be condemned, should it be constructed of hired guns? There's lots of moral and ethical questions, yet we seem to accept national armies with face value.

Why would we not feel the same for FFL? Some people feel it's dangerous, because they don't respect any national flags other than their unit flag. They are submitted to France, however, their loyalty is in their own org, and that somehow is 'dangerous'. And somehow there is no 'honour' in it anymore and it is in fact disgusting for some people.

I must disagree. I don't think the flag matters.

The most concerned voices usually think that these groups would be not as loyal to a cause and stay on course. As if national issues aren't the same.. So you wrap yourself around a flag, and think this is now different, and the reasoning usually is, that it protects our society, a society that is made of our citizens, there's a need to protect it or at least prepare for the worst should things happen.

That's fair enough. However, the 'honour' in it I still don't see being that much different. You're fighting for your family, sure. But since when did people of other nations really have beef with each other? Sometimes they do, but it's not about that.. it's an extension of politics, so rarely does it have anything to do with real beefing.

So what you have is an extension of politics, that acts when the political situation is what it is... I just don't see that being so different from what other groups are doing. It's just business at the end of the day. It's what we do.

And no, I don't think national armies are a bad idea

[Honealals]

Right, that's what I think as well. Pretty similar. Different scale and parameters, exactly.

But the FFL is also very loyal to the unit. They don't actually make decisions. So who ever makes those decisions, that's the people you need to worry about.

[iceleliewBync]

Oh, I didn't know you get to decide what the good causes are

Most who decide to stay with the FFL do so because of the brotherhood. And they don't care for France. FFL fights for France in the big picture, but in the mindset of FFL and it's troops, they fight for themselves.

[dmoiknlasd]

Blah blah blah, yes they ARE under their command, if they weren't, they'd be a a real private army or something........ FFL is still more loyal to FFL than the French flag. If your friend says he fights for France rather than the FFL, he is a Frenchie lover and deserves to have his new identity as the permanent one

[tsamprasxx]

A lot of people there are idealistic, as in believed in the romance of it. Well at least in the beginning.

But what ever, this isn't even the point of the thread. I smell Frenchie loving here. It makes me sick!

[jstizzle]

Not a bad idea actually, baguettes for breakfast that is. As long as you spit on the French flag before you eat it or something.