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Old 02-18-2007, 08:32 PM   #1
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Default Flip-Flopping on the filibuster.
IIRC, the Republicans haven't fillibustered any of Bush's judicial nominees so I don't see the contradiction.
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Old 02-18-2007, 08:46 PM   #2
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A filibuster is a filibuster. The Republicans filibustered the senate debate on Iraq thus blocking all debate from officially occuring.

Many of the people who voted to filibuster that motion are the very same people who claimed filibusters where anti-Democratic and immoral.
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Old 02-18-2007, 09:06 PM   #3
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I imagine neither party really wants to change the rules since eventually they'll find themselves in the minority.
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Old 02-18-2007, 09:25 PM   #4
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WTF is a filibuster?
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Old 02-18-2007, 09:51 PM   #5
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Originally posted by DinoDoc
I didn't see any move to break out the cots and force the Republicans to hold the floor indefinately. What does "breaking the cots" mean?

Is it about breaking the chairs so that the speaker has to stand during his entire speech?
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Old 02-18-2007, 10:07 PM   #6
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"break out the cots" that is, to bring them out.

http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/break+out
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Old 02-18-2007, 10:27 PM   #7
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Originally posted by KrazyHorse
Real filibusters can go on for days, and representatives can't leave the chamber when they're taking place, so they would have to sleep on cots in the chamber. Sucks if you have to pee
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Old 02-18-2007, 10:48 PM   #8
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They're suggesting, I believe, that the Dems call the Republicans' bluff and actually force them to do a real filibuster, not just threaten to do one. If the Majority leader doesn't allow any further business onto the agenda until the current matter is resolved, he/she can force them to eventually vote on it, unless they *actually* filibuster (ie, speak for 24 hours in a row etc.)
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In current practice, Senate Rule 22 permits procedural filibusters, in which actual continuous floor speeches are not required, although the Senate Majority Leader may require an actual traditional filibuster if he or she so chooses. This threat of a filibuster can be just as powerful as an actual filibuster.[/q]
-From the wiki article linked above.

They wouldn't be able to keep up the speeches forever, so the odds are if the Dems were willing to fight it they'd eventually have to put it to a vote [like the civil rights act...]
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Old 02-19-2007, 02:27 AM   #9
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mr smith goes to washington. 23 hours.
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Old 02-19-2007, 05:29 AM   #10
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Originally posted by Spiffor
Sucks if you have to pee Well, you can cede the floor for a few minutes to a colleague, who would cede it back to you when you came back. It's kind of like taking watch somewhat.
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Old 02-19-2007, 10:40 AM   #11
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Originally posted by DinoDoc
Oerdin pwnd again. DinoDoc still living in his fantasy world? It's nice to see somethings never change.
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Old 02-19-2007, 02:54 PM   #12
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Reread post #15. I have no intentions of explaining yet again to you.
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Old 02-20-2007, 02:44 AM   #13
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You, of all people, complain about people not making themselves clear and acting childish. DinoDoc, you define childish unclarity.
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Old 02-20-2007, 05:13 AM   #14
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How is this closing off debate, when cloture is the real mechanism to close off debate?
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