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Originally posted by Datajack Franit
Who cares! As if swallowing 4000 calories a day was better! Why is there such a social stigma toward smokers, I'll never understand. Smoking doesn't affect economy and health as much as obese people. No, but being obese only affects your health. Being a smoker affects the health of everyone around them. I agree with large taxes on fatty foods in order to provide a disincentive for their use and pay for the extra medical treatment needed for obese people, however I accept it's up to a person what they consume, since it doesn't directly harm anyone. Smoking, on the other hand, directly affects others. It's not about the extra financial cost of healthcare, that's taken care of with large taxes on cigarettes. It's about the fact that I breathe the same air you do. Smoking is pollution, and it's harmful to those around you. I may look at some fat person shovelling in McDonalds and think and think worse of them, but I wouldn't go up to them and ask them to stop it. However smoke around me and I will. If you want to smoke in your own home, then that's your choice and your rules. Similarly open spaces are public property that are well ventilated, and so I have little problem. Aside from that, there is a social stigma to being fat. People don't date you, seats on planes and cinemas feel too small and generally you walk around with it being obvious that you are fat. |
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Originally posted by Drogue
Also, I want to add, even if smoking is better than eating 4000 calories a day, it's not good. That would just make it less bad. It's like a lynch mob saying "Hanging - at least it's not crucifiction". It doesn't make it ok. If you lead a very active life, 4000 calories isn't bad. It is just those of us who sit on our asses all day that should try to stick near 2000. JM |
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Originally posted by Datajack Franit
Why is there such a social stigma toward smokers, I'll never understand. Because your disgusting ****ing habit smells AWFUL and permeates EVERYWHERE. At least Obese people's food smells good. Also, your smoking contributes to second-hand smoke which harms the health of others around you. I'm one happy camper as both of "my cities" (Toronto and Calgary) are now 100% smoke free in public places (including bars/pubs) ![]() ![]() |
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Originally posted by Drogue
Smoking, on the other hand, directly affects others. It's not about the extra financial cost of healthcare, that's taken care of with large taxes on cigarettes. It's about the fact that I breathe the same air you do. Smoking is pollution, and it's harmful to those around you. The lardarses and lazy bones are doing a far better job of polluting the environment with their cars than smokers do. When I was smoking I tried to avoid smoking around people who were non smokers in enclosed environments, its socialy responsible. Aside from that, there is a social stigma to being fat. People don't date you, seats on planes and cinemas feel too small and generally you walk around with it being obvious that you are fat. Im not fat, Im big boned and suffer under the injustice of seats being too small/inadequately padded. |
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Originally posted by Snotty
The lardarses and lazy bones are doing a far better job of polluting the environment with their cars than smokers do. When I was smoking I tried to avoid smoking around people who were non smokers in enclosed environments, its socialy responsible. ![]() Originally posted by Snotty Im not fat, Im big boned and suffer under the injustice of seats being too small/inadequately padded. That's true, but you are obscenely tall. Look at it this way, it makes you better at basketball and more attractive to the opposite sex. |
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