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Comparing Gibson to Riefenstahl? He'd wish...
And also, many mainly (white) leftists are worried, not because the movie is historically wrong, but because the movie shows the killings, wars for slaves, human sacrifices of meso american civilizations, they think it implies spaniards were right in conquering them, because altough spaniards were brutal, mesoamerican civilizations were even more brutal. I'm a white leftist and I never ever thought the Spaniards did the right thing. |
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I don't think "some discussion I saw on TV" is really enough to justify such a generalization.
If I where to make a similiar generalization based on the few discussions I've heard of the movie, I would come to the exact opposite conclusion - that "white leftists" don't have a problem with the movie and many indigenous people are critical of it. |
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The spaniards did not write maya history, just completely ignored it, maya history was written this century, thru archeology, and the numerous inscription on temples and stones that were not destroyed, or had remained hidden, almsot nothing was known with certainty about mayas as recently as 1900.
Please dont talk out of ignorance. |
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Originally posted by Brachy-Pride
Spoiler Spoiler: ,Hope it works, at the end of the movie the spaniards suddenly appear (they have no role apart from that cameo, altough it is of much significance, the issue is many people thought that the movie was wrong and had mixed up 2 different periods of time, but the movie is correct, mayas did not disappear completely around 900, there were still maya kingdoms in the XVII century, so nothing historically wrong about spaniards arriving And also, many mainly (white) leftists are worried, not because the movie is historically wrong, but because the movie shows the killings, wars for slaves, human sacrifices of meso american civilizations, they think it implies spaniards were right in conquering them, because altough spaniards were brutal, mesoamerican civilizations were even more brutal. And they say that even if that was true Gibson should have shown more of the good things, like their alphabet, maths, calendar, art, architecture, astronomy etc and not only the violence, and that it is not considerate since mayas nowadays are just poor peasants trying to survive. Surprisingly (or not) many amerindians dont have a problem with the movie, and you cant blame gibson, he wanted an action movie, not a documentary. I will see the movie since it soudns very exciting, all action Spoiler space: Spoiler: At the end, when the girl asks if they should go and join the Spanish, the hero says no. I tihnk this shows that the spanish aren't entirely upheld. JM |
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Well the parts in the Mayan city were interesting, to see how it was set up, but if you want to just go into the culture, then focus on the city, not on this dude from an outlying village trying to get back.
I really felt that it wasted my time. Aside from the half-hour in the Mayan city, it had little to offer. Even the chase scene got silly. |
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I haven't seen Eastwood's films which I take are both very good, but I think Borat and Apocalypto are both "must see" films. Borat was shocking and new at the same time. The same could be said about Apocalypto.
The brutality of the Mayan was unspeakable. That is the one message most will take away from this film. |
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