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Old 12-16-2006, 07:55 PM   #1
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Default What's with this Apocalypto movie?
I want to watch it.
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Old 12-16-2006, 08:00 PM   #2
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I thought of seeing it as well, but too extreme violence isn't my cup of tea either.
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Old 12-16-2006, 08:07 PM   #3
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Its Calypso
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Old 12-16-2006, 09:08 PM   #4
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Can someone tell me how to post invisible spoilers, I want to explain something about the movie´s end, and why the movie is in fact correct
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Old 12-16-2006, 09:13 PM   #5
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Use the [spoiler] tag.
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Old 12-16-2006, 09:14 PM   #6
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Jacques Cousteau
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Old 12-16-2006, 09:24 PM   #7
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It would be dificult to work in an anti-semitic theme in a film entirely about meso-americans.
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Old 12-16-2006, 11:13 PM   #8
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Comparing Gibson to Riefenstahl? He'd wish...

And also, many mainly (white) leftists are worried, not because the movie is historically wrong, but because the movie shows the killings, wars for slaves, human sacrifices of meso american civilizations, they think it implies spaniards were right in conquering them, because altough spaniards were brutal, mesoamerican civilizations were even more brutal.
I'm a white leftist and I never ever thought the Spaniards did the right thing.
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Old 12-16-2006, 11:44 PM   #9
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Originally posted by BeBro
What's WTF is with this Apocalypto movie? Fixed.
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Old 12-16-2006, 11:54 PM   #10
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Some discussion with aymaras I saw on tv
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Old 12-17-2006, 12:02 AM   #11
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I don't think "some discussion I saw on TV" is really enough to justify such a generalization.

If I where to make a similiar generalization based on the few discussions I've heard of the movie, I would come to the exact opposite conclusion - that "white leftists" don't have a problem with the movie and many indigenous people are critical of it.
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Old 12-17-2006, 12:13 AM   #12
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The spaniards did not write maya history, just completely ignored it, maya history was written this century, thru archeology, and the numerous inscription on temples and stones that were not destroyed, or had remained hidden, almsot nothing was known with certainty about mayas as recently as 1900.

Please dont talk out of ignorance.
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Old 12-17-2006, 12:25 AM   #13
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Originally posted by Brachy-Pride
Spoiler

Spoiler: ,Hope it works, at the end of the movie the spaniards suddenly appear (they have no role apart from that cameo, altough it is of much significance, the issue is many people thought that the movie was wrong and had mixed up 2 different periods of time, but the movie is correct, mayas did not disappear completely around 900, there were still maya kingdoms in the XVII century, so nothing historically wrong about spaniards arriving


And also, many mainly (white) leftists are worried, not because the movie is historically wrong, but because the movie shows the killings, wars for slaves, human sacrifices of meso american civilizations, they think it implies spaniards were right in conquering them, because altough spaniards were brutal, mesoamerican civilizations were even more brutal.
And they say that even if that was true Gibson should have shown more of the good things, like their alphabet, maths, calendar, art, architecture, astronomy etc and not only the violence, and that it is not considerate since mayas nowadays are just poor peasants trying to survive.

Surprisingly (or not) many amerindians dont have a problem with the movie, and you cant blame gibson, he wanted an action movie, not a documentary.

I will see the movie since it soudns very exciting, all action Spoiler space:



















































Spoiler:
At the end, when the girl asks if they should go and join the Spanish, the hero says no. I tihnk this shows that the spanish aren't entirely upheld.


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Old 12-17-2006, 12:33 AM   #14
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It sucked . The story was slow moving and dull until the chase scene and while it was violent, it wasn't over the top. It just wasn't that good.
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Old 12-17-2006, 01:36 AM   #15
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Well the parts in the Mayan city were interesting, to see how it was set up, but if you want to just go into the culture, then focus on the city, not on this dude from an outlying village trying to get back.

I really felt that it wasted my time. Aside from the half-hour in the Mayan city, it had little to offer. Even the chase scene got silly.
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Old 12-17-2006, 01:39 AM   #16
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It was a myth, I think.

It also had a fair dose of the noble savage.

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Old 12-17-2006, 01:40 AM   #17
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If I want to study a Mayan village I'll go to a museum.
I go to a movie as escapism. Entertainment. An occasional chuckle. Pop corn.
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Old 12-17-2006, 01:45 AM   #18
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Just use the [spoiler] tags, like was explained above.
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Old 12-17-2006, 01:48 AM   #19
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Originally posted by Jon Miller
I don't know how to make spoilers. Spoiler: Quote this post to see how
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Old 12-17-2006, 02:03 AM   #20
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I haven't seen Eastwood's films which I take are both very good, but I think Borat and Apocalypto are both "must see" films. Borat was shocking and new at the same time. The same could be said about Apocalypto.

The brutality of the Mayan was unspeakable.

That is the one message most will take away from this film.
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