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Old 12-01-2006, 09:33 PM   #1
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Default Bush 'routinely ignoring Blair'
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"bush's own staff" normally refers to white house staff. Calling any member of the executive branch "a Bush staffer" is a VERY odd usage.
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Old 12-01-2006, 09:36 PM   #2
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Originally posted by lord of the mark
FYI

"bush's own staff" normally refers to white house staff. Calling any member of the executive branch "a Bush staffer" is a VERY odd usage. OK, members of his administration. Better?
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Old 12-01-2006, 09:41 PM   #3
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Originally posted by Oerdin


OK, members of his administration. Better? Maybe. Usually "member of the admin" refers only to political appointees, and excludes civil servants (or Foreign Service members, in the case of State) Not clear to me if this guy is a political, but I doubt it, given his title is "special analyst" - and not Deputy Asst Sec or similar. I doubt the politicals go down that far.
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Old 12-01-2006, 10:00 PM   #4
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The State Department has been at odds with Bush pretty often. For damned good reasons, IMO. But it's not like this is one of "Bush's own people" criticizing him.

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Old 12-01-2006, 10:12 PM   #5
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Bush ignores Congress and the people he supposedly represents. Why should the Brits get special treatment?
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Old 12-01-2006, 10:14 PM   #6
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The dark side is strong with this one

Teh BUSH Emperor: You want this, don't you? The hate is swelling in you now. Take your Jedi weapon. Use it. I am unarmed. Strike me down with it. Give in to your anger. With each passing moment you make yourself more my servant.
Oerdin: No.
Teh BUSH Emperor: It is unavoidable. It is your destiny. You, like your father, are now mine.
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Old 12-01-2006, 11:48 PM   #7
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He probably found out Blair is a liberal
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Old 12-02-2006, 12:03 AM   #8
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Originally posted by Chemical Ollie
He probably found out Blair is a liberal It's all a Bush plot to discredit Blair and get the Tories back into power

Margaret Thatcher FTW!!!
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Old 12-02-2006, 02:19 AM   #9
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Given the fact that the Iraq war was wholey concocted by Bush and the great disparity in military strength between the two powers the natural that the US would be running the war effort as they saw fit. Britains only real option is follow/dont follow, I cant see how anyone could be suprized or indignant that the British/Blair dont have a seat at the table when it comes to war planning. Bush never offered any such arangment his "Coalition of the Willing" consists of thouse Willing to shutup and follow his lead, only a fool would expect anything else from such a Man.
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Old 12-02-2006, 09:39 AM   #10
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That is a mistake. The people of the two countries remain great friends though the current political elites in the US are utter ****tards.
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Old 12-02-2006, 11:40 AM   #11
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Originally posted by Oerdin
That is a mistake. The people of the two countries remain great friends though the current political elites in the US are utter ****tards. I think this goes for most of the other countries as well.
We might be against your President but that doesn´t mean that we are against all american citizens (although we might criticize american citizens for supporting Bushs politics)
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Old 12-02-2006, 12:02 PM   #12
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But it's not like this is one of "Bush's own people" criticizing him. How fortunate nobody has said that, then. If Bush can fire these people, then they obviously are his own staff, "OMG OERDIN PWNED LOLOL" -spin ignored.
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Old 12-02-2006, 03:57 PM   #13
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Provost, is it Bush or is it America? Assume Clinton were president, not Bush. Would Blair be more popular just because it was Clinton who conducted the Iraq war?
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Old 12-02-2006, 04:31 PM   #14
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So basically Bush had sex with Blair and now is avoiding him? That's what Blair gets for going to one of those college frat parties. Nice girls don't do that.
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Old 12-02-2006, 04:53 PM   #15
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Originally posted by DaShi
Clinton wouldn't have started a war in Iraq. Would it have been some random European country then?
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Old 12-02-2006, 05:16 PM   #16
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The only difference between the illegitimacy of Klinton's war and Bush's, is that everyone knows that the Iraq war was based on lies.

As usual, Slick Willy gets away with it.
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Old 12-02-2006, 06:59 PM   #17
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Ignoring the UN to launch an illegal war would be the point of comparison. If one cared about such things of course.
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Old 12-02-2006, 07:05 PM   #18
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Do you think we could talk Germany into going on a sympathy date with Blair?
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Old 12-03-2006, 12:25 AM   #19
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Originally posted by Sandman
Is this a surprise? The sooner the 'special relationship' ends, the better. what sort of windfall will either country gain from ending of this "special relationship?"

I'm not sure France has gained much from such willful avoidance of any sort of "special relationship".


AFAIK the "special relationship" did not require the Uk to get stuck in Iraq any more than it required them to become involed in the VIetnam war.
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Old 12-03-2006, 01:07 AM   #20
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Originally posted by BlackCat
How do you know that ? We can't "know" as much, but Clinton didn't seem anywhere near stupid enough to invade Iraq. At least, not to me he didn't. He might have invaded a different country that had something halfway-resembling a plausible tie to AQ, but he'd have had no reason to concoct that gibberish about WMDs, would he? Mind you, I don't even understand why Bush bothered (aside from "he's an idjit"), so it's hard to say...
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