[esconsise]

Originally posted by Brachy-Pride
In south america "indians" dont really object to being called that, they call themselves indios, even the leftist, lets worship mother earth, kill the spanish ones.
So, if they dont have a problem with it, you shouldnt either.

For me the problem with the word indians is the confussion with indians from the indian subcontinent This does depend much on the country and on different contexts. In some countries they prefer "indígena" over "indio". AFAIK, Argentinian tribes insist on "pueblos originarios".
But the labelking problem is far from being such a huge issue as it is in the USA and Canada.

[boizzones]

Originally posted by Wernazuma III


This does depend much on the country and on different contexts. In some countries they prefer "indígena" over "indio". AFAIK, Argentinian tribes insist on "pueblos originarios".
But the labelking problem is far from being such a huge issue as it is in the USA and Canada. it's not a huge issue here by any stretch. Sava AFAIKT is the only one showing any hint of passion over this.

[Karinochka]

Originally posted by Geronimo


it's not a huge issue here by any stretch. Sava AFAIKT is the only one showing any hint of passion over this. Well, of course I'm exaggerating, but most native tribes in the USA strongly enforce not to be called Indians, natives in Canada insist on the terminology "First Nations" or somesuch, while many peoples in South America don't make similar demands.

[BrandandGeneric]

I think amerindian is the best term

[zuhraliyana]

Originally posted by SlowwHand
Call them Casino Owners. Maybe in some parts of the US (just get rid of your ridiculous gambling laws if you don't like the Indians to run the casinos).

In South America, call them dirt hole dwellers. And I've seen seriously ****ed up reservations in the US and Canada too.

[Edqpdnuu]

Check out your comedy thread, cracker!

[voodoosdv]

Originally posted by Rufus T. Firefly
Actually, North American Indians themselves tend to prefer "Indian" to "Native American." That's quite understandable

[Grorointeri]

Originally posted by Sava

or... caucasian-American (to include other countries)? You mean Americans whose ancestors come from Georgia and Armenia?

[fajerdoksdsaaker]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara

As for Native Americans, this song pretty much says it all.

King Missile - "The Indians"

The Indians lived all over this land before we came and killed them.
That was very bad of us.
We thought we needed the land,
But for the most part,
We just ruined it anyway,
And now, nobody can use it.
That's the way we are.
We're pigs.
One of my favorite foods to eat is called corn.
The Indians call it , "maize."
We call the Indians , "Indians."
This is because Columbus thought he was in India
When he first came to this land.
Some people say we should call the Indians, "Native Americans,"
'Cause they were here in America before us,
But before us,
This land wasn't called, "America."
It was named "America" by a mapmaker who never even came here.
He just lived in Europe
And made maps and when he found out about this land,
He just made a map of it,
And just put his name on it,
'Cause he could.
That's the way we are.
We're pigs.

As I was writing this,
A cockroach fell from the sky and onto the table.
I killed it,
'Cause I did.
That's the way I am.
This doesn't really have very much to do with the Indians, though.
I guess I got kind of sidetracked.
Anyway, I hope you see my point.

They were conquered. It sucks for them, but it's a fact of history. Until very recently, this is what groups of people did. They moved into lands they wanted, expelled / slaughtered / absorbed the original inhabitants, and made the land their own.
The "Native Americans" have no more right to North America than the Germans have to Silesia, the pre-Turkish people have to Anatolia, the Celts have to England, the Goths to Hungary, etc.

I have nothing against giving them aid or helping to improve their standard of living, but I feel no shame for living on land that they formerly controlled. It's not my fault that they lost the wars to control the land.

I think that they should be called Aboriginal Americans, but Native American is no problem. I don't like the term Indians.

[cheesypeetyz]

I think we should go by the deeper nature of people, in this case red devils.. their deeper nature is to kill people with hatchets etc. Thus red devil.

[enteltcheft]

According to Mr. Swearington of Deadwood back in the old days people very much did distinguish between people descended from various northern European nationalities. Norwegians were referred to as "square-heads" for instance.

I have no problem with "native american", but "amerind" trips off the tongue easier.

[Kamendoriks]

Just curious, can we still call USians Americans? Or Canadians Canadians? I mean their ancestors weren't from (US of) America or Canada originally....

[googlopharm]

Originally posted by Sava


You should stick them somewhere else.

[texprofi]

Ok...I admit. I'm him.

[popillio]

Originally posted by Sava


Then how come we don't call people of Anglo descent "Anglo-Americans"?

or... caucasian-American (to include other countries)? from now on I'm going to go around calling myself an anglo-american. I'd like to see the funny looks I get from people.

[Stetbrate]

Texan-American