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Old 12-01-2006, 07:43 PM   #1
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Default Thumbs up to the pope!
He's trying. Even if he's the Pope, he's a human being first. Human beings make mistakes, misspeak.

I'm glad he's trying.
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Old 12-01-2006, 07:59 PM   #2
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The bomb is not Pope debating religion, the bomb is this:

Pope reportedly supported the Turkey's EU bid

Now if true, there's a change of rhetoric. He was opposed before.

And it's really big news, in my opinion. And very good move
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Old 12-01-2006, 08:23 PM   #3
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Originally posted by VetLegion
The bomb is not Pope debating religion, the bomb is this:

Pope reportedly supported the Turkey's EU bid That is a bomb. I always thought the Vatican's formal position was "we're not opposed," and that the Pope was believed to be personally opposed. That seems to be quite a turnaround for the Holy See.
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Old 12-01-2006, 08:27 PM   #4
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from http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6199350.stm (at the end)

Certainly Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan made the most of a private remark to him by the Pope, when the pontiff stepped off his plane in Ankara, to the effect that he welcomed the negotiations now going on in Brussels.

This was interpreted by Mr Erdogan as full papal support for Turkey, and duly reported as such in the local press.

But a Vatican official later put a perhaps more realistic spin on the Pope's remarks.

He pointed out that the Vatican - which incidentally is not a member of the EU - normally takes no stand on purely political issues, while supporting the basic ideals and goals of European unity because of the continent's common Christian roots and traditions.
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Old 12-01-2006, 11:22 PM   #5
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The Pope realizes that nations aren't able to get there act together, so it's up to religion to set the bar.
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