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**TubOppomo** · 09-26-2006, 09:30 PM

I think Zone Alarm is fine. I use Sygate Pro, but never had a problem really with Zone Alarm, and it's reviewed well at places like download.com
Tiny Personal Firewall is rated highly too, but to me it was a huge pain in the ass.

**SoOW2LeA** · 09-26-2006, 09:34 PM

Nothing like having the fox guarding the chicken house, Kuci.
I wouldn't trust it on a bet.

**virtuah** · 09-26-2006, 09:38 PM

Um... why?

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**wgX44EEn** · 09-26-2006, 09:39 PM

Really, most copies of Windows are set to the default of download and install Critical Windows Updates. If they wanted to do something, they very easily could. It seems silly to mistrust Windows Firewall for that reason.

**inve.tment** · 09-26-2006, 09:51 PM

Then why aren't you running linux or OS X?

**GAGNAPPEAPH** · 09-26-2006, 09:52 PM

Because I don't want to.
It isn't so much that I think Microsoft will spy on me, but rather I don't have confidence in their ability to write a good firewall.

**botagozzz** · 09-26-2006, 10:15 PM

I'm behind a router and Windows Firewall... I dont need more. Ditto

But I had problems with Zone alarm. I was very when I uninstalled it.

**jerzeygymwolf** · 09-26-2006, 10:43 PM

[img]http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b120/Fiszu/o14q.jpg[/img

**BypeVupyide** · 09-26-2006, 11:27 PM

tass: do you use a 3rd-party defragmener too?

**Ecurrexchangess** · 09-27-2006, 01:04 AM

Also, to my knowledge, the Windows firewall in Windows XP does not act on anything for outbound traffic.

That's odd, since it complains all the time "application X is trying to connect to the internet: approve/deny?"

**vosteglog** · 09-27-2006, 03:44 AM

It should, but that's not my point. I believe in checks and balances. I have 2 different programs for a lot of tasks.

**AOE6q4bu** · 09-27-2006, 03:52 AM

I also specifically use it to block... certain programs on my wireless connection so that I don't go over the bandwidth cap by accident.

**duminyricky** · 09-27-2006, 03:54 AM

testing

**andreas** · 09-27-2006, 04:02 AM

Originally posted by Kuciwalker
Apparently I had Symantec's (corporate) firewall running in place of Windows. I didn't remember I'd switched them when I installed it.

**bestgenpower** · 09-27-2006, 04:13 AM

Sadly, my NAT no longer provide such security, since I'm on a huge network (and I'm pretty sure it isn't NATed anyway).

**fkjghfg** · 09-27-2006, 04:28 AM

Except from one of the thousands of independently owned and maintained computers on the local network.

**SueveDobe** · 09-27-2006, 04:44 AM

Primary pc takes the brunt. Secondary gets little if any.

**Poothevokprot** · 09-27-2006, 05:04 AM

You could probably still pick up one of those commodity routers from the store and plug it in, and get the same level of protection that you'd get if there was nobody else on your network.

Or I could not care and use the free Symantec security

Plus I'm on the wireless network a lot of the time.

**L8fGLM4d** · 09-27-2006, 05:13 AM

Originally posted by Comrade Tassadar
I don't believe you. Give us a screenshot. Actually, Windows firewall does do this; it asks if you want to unblock the program the first time you run it.

Can't get you screenshots cos I don't use it

**Filling25** · 09-27-2006, 05:22 AM

Originally posted by LordShiva
Actually, Windows firewall does do this; it asks if you want to unblock the program the first time you run it.

Can't get you screenshots cos I don't use it

However (according to them) it only blocks incoming connections, not outgoing.

09-26-2006, 09:30 PM	#1
TubOppomo Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 434 Senior Member	Firewalls I think Zone Alarm is fine. I use Sygate Pro, but never had a problem really with Zone Alarm, and it's reviewed well at places like download.com Tiny Personal Firewall is rated highly too, but to me it was a huge pain in the ass. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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SoOW2LeA Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 520 Senior Member	Nothing like having the fox guarding the chicken house, Kuci. I wouldn't trust it on a bet. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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virtuah Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 357 Senior Member	Um... why? xpost Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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wgX44EEn Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 398 Senior Member	Really, most copies of Windows are set to the default of download and install Critical Windows Updates. If they wanted to do something, they very easily could. It seems silly to mistrust Windows Firewall for that reason. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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inve.tment Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 475 Senior Member	Then why aren't you running linux or OS X? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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09-26-2006, 09:52 PM	#6
GAGNAPPEAPH Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 350 Senior Member	Because I don't want to. It isn't so much that I think Microsoft will spy on me, but rather I don't have confidence in their ability to write a good firewall. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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09-26-2006, 10:15 PM	#7
botagozzz Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 544 Senior Member	I'm behind a router and Windows Firewall... I dont need more. Ditto But I had problems with Zone alarm. I was very when I uninstalled it. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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BypeVupyide Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 410 Senior Member	tass: do you use a 3rd-party defragmener too? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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09-27-2006, 01:04 AM	#10
Ecurrexchangess Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 526 Senior Member	Also, to my knowledge, the Windows firewall in Windows XP does not act on anything for outbound traffic. That's odd, since it complains all the time "application X is trying to connect to the internet: approve/deny?" Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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09-27-2006, 03:44 AM	#11
vosteglog Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 495 Senior Member	It should, but that's not my point. I believe in checks and balances. I have 2 different programs for a lot of tasks. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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09-27-2006, 03:52 AM	#12
AOE6q4bu Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 415 Senior Member	I also specifically use it to block... certain programs on my wireless connection so that I don't go over the bandwidth cap by accident. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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duminyricky Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 464 Senior Member	testing Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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09-27-2006, 04:02 AM	#14
andreas Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 567 Senior Member	Originally posted by Kuciwalker Apparently I had Symantec's (corporate) firewall running in place of Windows. I didn't remember I'd switched them when I installed it. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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09-27-2006, 04:13 AM	#15
bestgenpower Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 413 Senior Member	Sadly, my NAT no longer provide such security, since I'm on a huge network (and I'm pretty sure it isn't NATed anyway). Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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09-27-2006, 04:28 AM	#16
fkjghfg Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 469 Senior Member	Except from one of the thousands of independently owned and maintained computers on the local network. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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09-27-2006, 04:44 AM	#17
SueveDobe Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 426 Senior Member	Primary pc takes the brunt. Secondary gets little if any. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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09-27-2006, 05:04 AM	#18
Poothevokprot Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 601 Senior Member	You could probably still pick up one of those commodity routers from the store and plug it in, and get the same level of protection that you'd get if there was nobody else on your network. Or I could not care and use the free Symantec security Plus I'm on the wireless network a lot of the time. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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09-27-2006, 05:13 AM	#19
L8fGLM4d Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 551 Senior Member	Originally posted by Comrade Tassadar I don't believe you. Give us a screenshot. Actually, Windows firewall does do this; it asks if you want to unblock the program the first time you run it. Can't get you screenshots cos I don't use it Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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09-27-2006, 05:22 AM	#20
Filling25 Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 425 Senior Member	Originally posted by LordShiva Actually, Windows firewall does do this; it asks if you want to unblock the program the first time you run it. Can't get you screenshots cos I don't use it However (according to them) it only blocks incoming connections, not outgoing. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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