[ligeplodore]

But Santo Domingo is far more expensive than Santiago. My brother and his fiance where here yesterday and we were talking about their budget since they are getting married in two weeks. To me, some things seemed ridiculously cheap compared to the same living standards in S.D.

[boiffrona]

Anyone know for how long Pollo Victorina has been around? Most seem to like their food and find their prices reasonable. I know that I ate in one of their restaurants as far back as 1987. This means that they were a survivor of previous financial downturns and were able to compete with relative newcomers like KFC and Church's. What does that say about the current downturn, then?

[squeerisott]

It will depend on where you are, goatfarmga. From your description in another thread of the area you are moving to, it is likely that the only "fast food" will be the stuff sold by street vendors (and which you eat at your peril).

[Soolfelpecelf]

i don't know what is happening out in the sticks, but pollo victorina seems to be business as usual in the capital.

it may be paying all its money over to the bank, but it won't close, not for a while yet (er....that's my prediction, i don't have anything to substantiate it).

the same, it is said, has happened to plaza lama.

kentucky fried chicken was here many years ago, went and then came back again in the 90's. they and some other american fast food places will probably do the same disappearing/reappearing act again.
that type of business, though, is having problems all over the world, not just in the d.r.

[bjacogaerllyo]

AZB, just out of curiosity as I haven't myself been able to get back to Santiago in five or six months, what's the main problem with PV, KFC, etc. No customers because the food is priced too high now? High rents? High taxes? Increased electricity, water, employee, raw product costs? Probably all of the above. Are the restaurants pretty much empty then?

[bjacogaerllyo]

Originally posted by Ken
From your description in another thread of the area you are moving to, it is likely that the only "fast food" will be the stuff sold by street vendors (and which you eat at your peril). Ken, they call that "Fast" Food for an entirely different reason.

[Hpdovoxm]

Originally posted by GabyCruz
Robert: please do not erase this> I am going to try to be civilize. The Doctor talk about medicine thecook about food or cooking , and I speak about Politic, because that is what I like ,and what right now isin my heart. I am In America, here exist the freedom of speech,I payed for my computer , I payed for may internet, My ideas are mine. If any one dont like what I said dont read it ignore it that is it. please you got to respect my ideas and my rights. because I pay my taxes.and I am my own boss,that's it.got it . If DR one dont like that we or I speak about political ideas.why dont they place it in the rules? or get out of my internet and make it aprivate monopolized board. I want answers. Thank you.GabyCRuz That's fine - Talk about it in your own damn thread! Better yet, come to the DR and walk your talk. In this thread, we are talking about fast food. Each of your political threads were 'laughed' out of the house because they say absolutely nothing of substance. Gaby, talk to us with some substance behind what you're saying and DON'T say it in a thread about chicken fast food chicken. Geez Robert, cut all of the gibberish - mine included....

[IssuessBratte]

Originally posted by AZB
How long would it take for a complete collaspe of the economy? You sure make it sound Bleak in the DR.. Pam

[Arr34ston]

Don Crisco,

Not that I am too familiar with their operation, but I doubt your statement about all their food being local.

If you think about it:

1.chicken feed is mostly imported for most poultry farmers. Hard to believe but it is true. For as long as I have lived here (10 years plus), I know for fact that imported feed has always been cheaper and better than the locally produced version. Cost of production for locally grown feed (alimento) is too high in comparison to that of imported from the U.S. Mostly because of the subsidies. Go to Puerto Plata and see the quantity of feed that comes in weekly.
2.The amount of fuel that they use for distribution must run into the mega bucks. I see their trucks running around all over the country. How about the generators? Their refrigeration cost must be horrendous whether they buy fuel for their own generators or buy power from the distributors. Think about the propane gas for cooking!
3.Parts for their equipment is also another thing. All their restaurant equipment, refrigeration equipment, vehicles, poultry equipment and who knows what else is all imported.

I may be wrong but I think most of their input is directly or indirectly imported. Oh I forgot. They have to buy jet fuel and chopper parts also. Executives zip around the country in a fancy helicopter.

[KeestRast]

Originally posted by Escott
Expats do NOT have a voice. Most expats don't even have a residency status let alone citizenship and a DR Passport.
Escott That's not true. We send our news to 13,000+ people daily, 20% being locally.

We know we make a difference by the feedback we receice from local Dominicans that read our news.

I'm an expat...

[Hpdovoxm]

thanks Robert - I'm sure you did a good deed for mankind today..!

[bjacogaerllyo]

Geez, AZB, that's terrible if true.

I really liked Pollo Victorina. We just rented a nice house in a quiet neigbhorhood in Santiago so we'd have someplace to retreat when living out here in the sticks on the NC got to be too much and we needed a break in a real city.

I was looking forward to a little fast food again, and especially Pollo Victorina from time to time. Ah well. Another of the little pleasure's that make life fun taken away.

[bjacogaerllyo]

It makes GabyCruz send me threatening and highly humorous (unintentionally I am sure) personal messages. Anyone else, or I am just special? LOL.

BTW, GC, did you understand the Latin quote I posted in the forum where you were attacking Hillbilly's knowledge and credentials in the D.R. Find someone to translate it for you and learn something.

Robert, I agree, but some of us have done our share. I do not wish to spend the rest of my life fighting everyone else's battles for them. I just want some more of that wonderful dipping sauce from P.V. You think they'd part with the recipe for that? The problem here is that folks don't understand that responsible government requires responsible voters. This the D.R. does not have. GC is a prime example being ignorant of his own country's history. People like that gave Hippo the keys to the car and all the credit cards, he and his cronies wrecked Papi B's auto and maxed out the cards, and now that the whole house of cards is crumbling whine for help. Too late. I didn't make this mess, and I ain't helping clean it up.

[Qahtwugc]

I have heard from a banker that Pollo Victorina has gone broke and turned over their operations to a bank (?). With the raising dollar/peso exchange rate, they just couldn't keep up.
They are just one of the many businesses who have closed down or are about to go broke. Ferreteria M&M (do it best) is closed and instead Ochoa are opening up there.
car dealerships mark dollar prices on cars now. No one is buying them anyway so dealers are going broke. Constructions have stopped all over santiago. Black outs are putting the last nails in the coffen before the hell breaks loose.
Restaurants are empty and disco / bars have people inside that you could count on your fingers. francifol cafe put on a huge presidente show last night, brought beautiful venezuelan model girls and 3 puerto-rican sexy dancers. it was full to the max but how many people were actually buying drinks? Not many.

How long would it take for a complete collaspe of the economy? Not many days as I have heard the gasoline prices will raise again to 57-58 pesos for the cheap gas.
anyone wants to buy a jeepita with V8 engine?

[Eunatis]

I never said I didn't see, but I have fought my battles educating idiots who can't tell right from wrong or good from bad and have the scars to prove it. It's time for someone else to take up the charge.

Go for it. Y vaya con dios!

[bjacogaerllyo]

Besides, when I start talking politics my brains starts running too fast for my Spanish and I end up sounding like a jabbering idiot.

[ringtonesmannq]

Pollo Victorino is my favorite fast food place in the DR.
After PV it's Pollo Licey. AZB, are they closing up before
September? Maybe I'll get a last supper there in
September.

I remember that on my first trip to Santo Domingo I shared
Pollo Victorina with my sister-in-law's family. It has sort of
become a little tradition to have a meal there on each trip.
Yes, take out, of course.

Another one of my "cuñadas" lives on Calle Mexico just
(a few floors) above PV. I don't know how many times
I have used it as a point of referrence with Dominicans
who are from (or lived in) the capital. Pollo Victorina,
I just hope that El Dragon de Oro isn't next.

JD

[Eunatis]

Originally posted by GabyCruz
ENOUGH thread hijacking!!!!!

Read the title of the thread, please. Take a deep breath, and do it slowly and aloud so you'll not miss anything:

"SAY GOOD BYE TO POLLO VICTORNIA"

Now. Who's hijacking what? Relax, man.