[FetMiddle]

I am not sure, but the lack of SS might be a problem with public school enrollment (which would be a good thing, IMO).

About ten years ago I knew some people who didn't get their kids SS numbers and home schooled them... They said it was up to the kids themselves if they wanted to get SS numbers. I don't know if they have birth certificates.

They didn't care about claiming tax benefits. They were here in Cali then they moved to Illinois.

[nerkvcbtre]

I'm with ya you osoab.

He is in a position where it shouldn't be needed, so it shouldn't be taken.

Its defying his own meaning, and the meaning of it.

[DevaRextusidis]

I am not sure, but the lack of SS might be a problem with public school enrollment (which would be a good thing, IMO).

I agree! Would home school too if at all possible.

About ten years ago I knew some people who didn't get their kids SS numbers and home schooled them... They said it was up to the kids themselves if they wanted to get SS numbers. I don't know if they have birth certificates.

They didn't care about claiming tax benefits. They were here in Cali then they moved to Illinois.

Interesting. I wish I was taught what I know now at a younger age and could decide those things for myself.

I heard a story in the last year or so about two girls that didn't have birth certificates and when they turned 18 they were asking the government for one..... Why? Can't travel outside the country I guess...? Or get a job with a corporation?

[Jannet.K]

Its his money, it was taken from him. He isn't collecting somebody else's property, it is his own labor that produced it.

Like said earlier, he doesn't participate in the pension and he gives large sums of his unused congressional office budget back. He didn't accept medicare and such when he practiced, etc...

He sets plenty of examples, but I just can't see getting robbed and then when the opportunity to get your stuff back, saying

'nah, y'all keep it, I refuse to accept my stuff back out of principle. See, I don't approve of the way you took it, so I can't have anything to do with my stuff now.'

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He is a hypocrite because he still takes advantage of the system he is trying to destroy. A leader sets an example.

As long as one is forced, repeat forced, to contribute, I don't think it's hypocritical to take some of it back, while at the same time opposing the whole system. If it was voluntary and he participated while decrying it, then he'd be a hypocrite.

[mynaflzak]

Another thing Ron Paul is known to do is insert pork into bills for his own district, then vote against the bills. That's Ben Franklin-level political skill right there.

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Calling that hypocritical is ridiculous. Do you conduct all of your transactions with precious metals and barter, or are you a hypocrite too? Even if you want to change the system, you still have to live in it. He'd be a damn fool to not take his SS.

My integrity is not in question. It is RP, him double dipping at the public trough, and his lack of will in the last few weeks for his campaign that needs to dicussed.

There is no money in SS you know that Sparky. Whatever RP and millions of others had forced from them is gone now. He helps promote the myth that SS will always be there by accepting it.

I don't give a pass to the guy for taking it. He espouses the need to cut entitlements and gov spending, yet he accepts benefits from the gravy train.

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As long as one is forced, repeat forced, to contribute, I don't think it's hypocritical to take some of it back, while at the same time opposing the whole system. If it was voluntary and he participated while decrying it, then he'd be a hypocrite.

So by him forcing his own grand kids to pay for him, is that acceptable? Ultimately, that's what it is if the system is solvent.

There is no SS money. So why help keep the myth going?

[agolutuaddiff]

So by him forcing his own grand kids to pay for him, is that acceptable? Ultimately, that's what it is if the system is solvent.

There is no SS money. So why help keep the myth going?

Show us where and when Ron Paul has ever voted to support any of these unconstitutional acts.

You are so wrong, you stink.

[vernotixas]

I oppose it too, but I will collect it when I get the chance.

Here is your opportunity then. In an interview with Alfred Adask a gentleman by the name of Lloyd Smith (located in the Oregon/Washington region) disclosed that when ill and out of resources and aged in the mid 50's he closed his social security account and the following day applied for the minimum monthly benefit available by closing that account .. something like $600 a month.

You can go in and open a social security account one day, close it the following day and apply for this minimum benefit on the third day. That is the way their rules are written. Social Security will not like you very much when you do this but they still are required to send the check out.

Notice that this is the substance of Lloyd Smith's interview. I have no knowledge whether anybody else has done so or if his statements are accurate but I suspect they are.

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Show us where and when Ron Paul has ever voted to support any of these unconstitutional acts.

You are so wrong, you stink.

My "love" for RP doesn't blind me either.

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Here is your opportunity then. In an interview with Alfred Adask a gentleman by the name of Lloyd Smith (located in the Oregon/Washington region) disclosed that when ill and out of resources and aged in the mid 50's he closed his social security account and the following day applied for the minimum monthly benefit available by closing that account .. something like $600 a month.

You can go in and open a social security account one day, close it the following day and apply for this minimum benefit on the third day. That is the way their rules are written. Social Security will not like you very much when you do this but they still are required to send the check out.

Notice that this is the substance of Lloyd Smith's interview. I have no knowledge whether anybody else has done so or if his statements are accurate but I suspect they are.

How exactly does one close their SS account? I don't know about anyone else, but I've actually tried closing mine; I've sent in the "official" forms, and even talked with SS reps on the phone. They told me I couldn't close the account and to think of it as a "forced savings plan". My notarized forms, sent by registered mail, requesting my removal from the SS system have simply been ignored.

[vernotixas]

How exactly does one close their SS account? I don't know about anyone else, but I've actually tried closing mine; I've sent in the "official" forms, and even talked with SS reps on the phone. They told me I couldn't close the account and to think of it as a "forced savings plan". My notarized forms, sent by registered mail, requesting my removal from the SS system have simply been ignored.

As it is not YOUR account you will not be able to close it. The fact that it is still there is evidenced by the SS sending you money. The reason you cannot close it is because it is not YOURs to close. The name on the account will be in all caps with an initial rather than a middle name.

My yeas are yeas and my nays are nays. It doesn't matter what SS does ... what matters is what I do. Possibly you are the same way? Once the account is severed you just don't refer to it again ... ever. Adask archives his audio files but the outfit that stores them does charge a small fee. The audio file you want is dated Thursday June 9th, 2011. Details here:
http://adask.wordpress.com/radio/