[Svatudjw]

Originally Posted by MAGNES All of the above is related, not just Byzantium.

Some key names to research.

Isabella of Spain Nation builder.

didn't Queen Isabella kick the Jews out of Spain ? Yes but it is more than this, they were allied with the Muslims.

And the Inquisition is largely a search for infiltrators , Anty Ep introduced
us to this on GIM , Awoke, King Theoden and myself got banned on gim1
near the last days by skyvike just for discussing this, it is key hidden history.

http://www.catholicvoice.co.uk/pinay/

[Kryfamid]

Eustace: It was the Empire of East Rome, set up by Roman leaders after the Jews had destroyed Rome. The Jews destroyed Rome? Amongst historians the cause of Rome's decline and fall is endlessly debated, but historians hardly ever claim only one cause, such as what Mullins does here. I suppose what he means is that Christianity destroyed Rome, and Jews are responsible for Christianity, but then why did the Byzantine Empire, itself Christian, continue on for 1000 years? Or is Mullins saying that the fall of Rome had to do with Jewish intrigue in some other way? Rome fell for a number of reasons. Low birthrate of real Romans. Bad strategic location, unlike Constantinople. Strategic errors like employing German tribes as mercenary forces in Romes defense against other German tribes. The problem here being obvious. But Jews? Can someone explain how Jews, irregardless of the Christian question, caused the fall of Rome?

[Svatudjw]

BYZANTINE BATTLE AXE



Greek Fire
http://www.greece.org/romiosini/greek_fire.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_fire



Walls of Constantinople
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walls_of_Constantinople



Then one day it all changed, destruction of impregnable walls.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fall_of_Constantinople

[Svatudjw]

Eustace: It was the Empire of East Rome, set up by Roman leaders after the Jews had destroyed Rome.

The Jews destroyed Rome? Amongst historians the cause of Rome's decline and fall is endlessly debated, but historians hardly ever claim only one cause, such as what Mullins does here. I suppose what he means is that Christianity destroyed Rome, and Jews are responsible for Christianity, but then why did the Byzantine Empire, itself Christian, continue on for 1000 years? Or is Mullins saying that the fall of Rome had to do with Jewish intrigue in some other way? Rome fell for a number of reasons. Low birthrate of real Romans. Bad strategic location, unlike Constantinople. Strategic errors like employing German tribes as mercenary forces in Romes defense against other German tribes. The problem here being obvious. But Jews? Can someone explain how Jews, irregardless of the Christian question, caused the fall of Rome? That is not as clear cut but I cover Justinian above, I did my own research here and he is right.
As far as Rome the city and Empire a lot happens, have you ever seen Cicero quotes and
Tacitus, Cicero especially, if one does a lot of reading to find just one thing it is not easy,
very time consuming, history is white washed too. I managed to find information on what
EM was talking about and he is right. I can give exact historians name. Jews were alien and
the Byzantines were highly Christian.

Cicero talks of Jews and traitors within, total corruption , and Cicero is very high figure,
he fears the Jews, he is a Statesmen of power and stature, a philosopher, a business man,
successful at many things, I would assume military too, and Cicero says all you need to know.

Also, Jews ran the slave trade , they had a monopoly on it, how did they get that if these
reports are true, it fits with what Cicero has to say, total corruption at the top.

You do more supposing than Eustace Mullins who is right about everything almost.

Rome destroyed itself by Empire, corruption, traitors within, sound familiar ?

My comments here don't negate your good overview of events as well.

[Svatudjw]

"A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and he carries his banners openly. But the traitor moves among those within the gates freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very hall of government itself. For the traitor appears not traitor - he speaks in the accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their garments, and he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation - he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of a city - he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to be feared."- Cicero, 42 B.C.


"Softly! Softly! I want none but the judges to hear me. The Jews have already gotten me into a fine mess, as they have many other gentleman. I have no desire to furnish further grist for their mills." (Oration in Defense of Flaccus) CICERO

Cicero was serving as defense counsel at the trial of Flaccus, a Roman official who interfered with Jewish gold shipments to their international headquarters (then, as now) in Jerusalem. Cicero himself certainly was not a nobody, and for one of this stature to have to "speak softly" shows that he was in the presence of a dangerously powerful sphere of influence. On another occasion Cicero wrote: "The Jews belong to a dark and repulsive force. One knows how numerous this clique is, how they stick together and what power they exercise through their unions. They are a nation of rascals and deceivers." CICERO

SENECA (Lucius Annaeus Seneca). First century Roman philosopher. "The customs of that most criminal nation have gained such strength that they have now been received in all lands. The conquered have given laws to the conquerors." (De Superstitione)

DIO CASSIUS. Second century Roman historian. Describing the savage Jewish uprising against the Roman empire that has been acknowledged as the turning point downward in the course of that great state-form: "The Jews were destroying both Greeks and Romans. They ate the flesh of their victims, made belts for themselves out of their entrails, and daubed themselves with their blood... In all, 220,000 men perished in Cyrene and 240,000 in Cyprus, and for this reason no Jew may set foot in Cyprus today." (Roman History)


In the Zohar, they openly talk about " war on Rome ", " war on Rome " translates to War on the West.
I have quotes somewhere , even links to a Zohar site .


From a Jewish source, Jews do not like Tacitus.
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/...9_0_19506.html

There is way more out there, good luck sorting through it all.
Especially today with political correctness.

The Greeks and Romans also documented human sacrifice of the Middle East,
there was naysayers, no way, they are wrong, well modern archeology proves
the Greeks and Romans were right, Baal and Molech worship is real, a historian
talks about all this, but does not give references to which ancient author and work.
That is the problem you are dealing with here. I can get you this too.
Problem is I went through lots of material, most of it in podcast.

The Jews always hated the Greeks and Romans, who were the Romans ?
For another topic. Somehow it all fits. EM ain't wrong about anything.

[Svatudjw]

The Jews destroyed Rome?

Another point, Byzantium is Rome, Jews destroyed Byzantium.

Jews ran the Ottoman Empire as tax collectors and running the administration.

Jews in the Ottoman Empires dying days destroyed the remaining Christians.

Masonic Jews like the founders of Turkey a NWO creation.

The leaders , the Rothchilds even stoled the banner for their own, spoils of war ?

The double headed eagle, a very Greek and Roman symbol of the West
and highly Christian. I can speak to this in detail and even explain precious
metals imagery to you in detail, it is all related, what does the eagle stand
for , for one. It is all related images of Justice representing God.

" Venetian " bankers directed the whole show leading the Muslims to destroy
Europe. BB on gim had a thread on this. Those same " ventian " bankers
took over England and created FreeMasonry. Tarpley has a book on this.
Freemasons also steal and corrupt the banner of Christianity and the West,
as their own. All of this is just coincidences, right . They then proceeded to
destroy Germany and Russia, both claimed to continue the Holy Roman Empire.
All of these are just coincidences too brought to us by Jews. Jews have been
waging war on Europe forever. They are the destroyers of many European cities
and destroyers of libraries, who burned the Library of Alexandria down ? Most
likely they did.

Jews were allied with the Muslims to destroy Europe.

Hannukah, same type of history, key hidden history.

The LOTR is allegory to a lot of this history, hence my new avatar, to highlight this.

[Kryfamid]

Undoubtedly Jews politically have always been hard to deal with and just general all around a-holes, but to blame all the debacles of western history on them, and all the misfortunes of today, is obsessive to a degree that is not healthy. German tribes brought down the Western Empire, and the Turks brought down the Eastern. The West was decadent, and it is probable that Jews, like an opportunistic disease, profit and stir up problems inside a decadent society, but blaming them categorically while exonerating the society at large isn't reasonable. It is blame shifting.

[chujwduperjadzi]

Jews were allied with the Muslims to destroy Europe.

Hannukah, same type of history, key hidden history.

The LOTR is allegory to a lot of this history, hence my new avatar, to highlight this.

If you think LOTR talks about it, you owe it to yourself to read Tolkien's book, "The Silmmarillion", especially the part concerning the rise and fall of the Numenoreans.

They are given (by the angels/minor gods who serve the one true God) a beautiful island, longer lifespan than other mortals, and they become wealthy just like the Byzantines.

Sauron is in Middle Earth in Mordor, they come and take him captive, but he is so convincing a deceiver that he poisons them with the spirit of rebellion against God and his edict that men are mortal and that there are places they cannot go.

They sin against God, in response he breaks their island, and only a few loyal survivors make it away from the destruction - they end up in Middle Earth and their descendants include Aragorn.

Note that in the New Testament, the spirit of rebellion is always called also, the spirit of anti-Christ ... something I am thinking about when I consider the American Jews' behavior towards the nuclear family, Christianity, their constant promotion of homosexuality, pornography, their war against modesty, etc.

[rozettasmolanov]

Originally Posted by MAGNES All of the above is related, not just Byzantium.

Some key names to research.

Isabella of Spain Nation builder.

didn't Queen Isabella kick the Jews out of Spain ? By dawn the Turks are in the city. The last Byzantine emperor, Constantine XI, has died in the fighting.

Mehmed, the sultan, goes straight to Santa Sophia to hear a proclamation from the pulpit - that there is no God but Allah, and Muhammad is his prophet. The great church, for many centuries the most magnificent in Christendom, now begins its career as a mosque. And Constantinople gradually acquires a new name; the urban area, widely referred to in everyday Greek as eis tin polin (in the city), becomes Istanbul.

The Ottoman army is allowed three days of pillage (a depressing convention of medieval warfare), but Mehmed keeps it under tolerable control. He has acquired a capital for his empire. He intends to preserve and improve it.


In an honourable Muslim tradition, he plans a multicultural and tolerant city. The population is much reduced, after decades of fear and uncertainty, so Mehmed brings Greeks from the Aegean (soon another part of his domain) to revive the place. The Greek Orthodox patriarch is left in charge of his flock. And when the Jews in Spain are expelled, in 1492, many of them come to Istanbul where it is official policy to welcome them.

Mehmed launches into a busy building programme, founding several mosques and beginning Topkapi Sarayi in 1462 as his own palace. Constantinople, transformed into Istanbul, is set to be a great imperial centre again. It has exchanged one empire for another, Byzantine for Ottoman.


Read more: http://www.historyworld.net/wrldhis/...#ixzz19wMy9q3R

[nretdjuend]

And when the Jews in Spain are expelled, in 1492, many of them come to Istanbul where it is official policy to welcome them.

Mehmed launches into a busy building programme, founding several mosques and beginning Topkapi Sarayi in 1462 as his own palace. Constantinople, transformed into Istanbul, is set to be a great imperial centre again. It has exchanged one empire for another, Byzantine for Ottoman.


Read more: http://www.historyworld.net/wrldhis/...#ixzz19wMy9q3R

So what, the expulsion was just a feint, while they were focused on moving as a group to Istanbul anyways?

[Svatudjw]

Undoubtedly Jews politically have always been hard to deal with and just general all around a-holes, but to blame all the debacles of western history on them, and all the misfortunes of today, is obsessive to a degree that is not healthy. German tribes brought down the Western Empire, and the Turks brought down the Eastern. The West was decadent, and it is probable that Jews, like an opportunistic disease, profit and stir up problems inside a decadent society, but blaming them categorically while exonerating the society at large isn't reasonable. It is blame shifting.

You obviously are not familiar with Jewish history as written by the Jews themselves.

And with this statement you make you deny everything.

Turko Mongol Khazars you are referring to. lol

You deny Jews and Muslim allied to destroy Europe.

You deny the Protocols. ZOG.

They write about their destruction through subversion, deceit, treachery, corruption,
they are waging war and all is fair according to them, they even have holidays that
glorify this, like Passover and Hannukah, even in the OT, first contact with the Greeks,
who were the Dorian Philistines, Palestine, Land of the Philistines, read what they wrote in OT.
Most likely they destroyed Egpyt and robbed it, Persia, Babylon, Ancient Greece. I know the history
of how the Romans destroyed Greece, total Jewish MO, get everyone to fight each other,
preach disunity, corrupt the top, Demosthenes is one of these snakes, a half
barbaric Scythian selling freedom to everyone, what he sold was their slavery and destruction,
sound familiar, what the Romans did to the Macedonian State, the Jews of the USA,
Morganthau, tried to do the Germans. Morganthau was not allowed to implement it.
The Hellenistic States were Western States, they were the Macedonian State imposed on lands by the Macedonian Generals, one of the greatest periods of prosperity for everyone, I make reference to a good
work above, they were the power, unifiers and builders, they created Greece too. The Romans called Alexander, The Great, for what his Generals accomplished. Maccabees, Hanukkah, see that history, totally
against all that. Egpyt , Persia, Babylon, others can comment upon that. Do you have any idea how much literature is out there and how many times related info has been posted.

What was communism, it wasn't new , it was just another swindle by the same people.

They have always been like this, this is why they are known as " NATION WRECKERS ".

And booted out of many countries over and over again.

Even the Magna Carta is against the Jews.

Philistine, Byzantine, Hellenist, these have made it as dirty words today, how ?
They hate Apollo, they hate Jesus, they hate Dios, they hate God. They are the
total antithesis of The West and all it stands for going back to the beginning.
And this is why the run the Occult, to corrupt everything.

"We Jews, we, the destroyers, will remain destroyers forever. Nothing that you will do will meet our needs and demands. We will forever destroy because we need a world of our own." - Maurice Samuel 'You Gentiles', P. l55 Harcourt, Brace.

In this New World Order the children of Israel will furnish all the leaders without encountering opposition. The Governments of the different peoples forming the world republic will fall without difficulty into the hands of the Jews. It will then be possible for the Jewish rulers to abolish private property and everywhere to make use of the resources of the state. Thus will the promise of the Talmud be fulfilled, in which is said that when the Messianic time is come, the Jews will have all the property of the whole world in their hands."
— Baruch Levy, Letter to Karl Marx, 'La Revue de Paris', p.574, June 1, 1928

“It is essential that the sufferings of Jews. . . become worse. . . this will assist in realization of our plans. . .
I have an excellent idea. . . I shall induce anti-Semites to liquidate Jewish wealth. . .
The anti-Semites will assist us thereby in that they will strengthen the persecution and oppression of Jews.
The anti-Semites shall be our best friends”
— Theodor Herzl, Founder of Zionism in 1897

"I've never seen a President — I don't care who he is — stand up to them. It just boggles the mind. They always get what they want. The Israelis know what is going on all the time. I got to the point where I wasn't writing anything down. If the American people understood what a grip these people have got on our government, they would RISE UP IN ARMS. Our citizens certainly don't have any idea what goes on."
Thomas H. Moorer(1912 - 2004) Admiral, US Navy & Chairman, Joint Chiefs of Staff during interview on
24 August 1983

"I want to tell you something very clear. Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America and the Americans know it."
- Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon to Foreign Minister Shimon Peres, October 2001

Now it is your turn America.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFhgv-eTkXo

[Svatudjw]

It has exchanged one empire for another, Byzantine for Ottoman.

If you study this history you will see how stupid this comment is.

I have all you need in the above posts.

Western Civilization was destroyed, people mass murdered and genocided,
a fake NWO creation, Turkey was created by Jews, Masons, Rothchilds,
on the bones of destroyed European peoples, and they plan to do this
to everyone.

[rozettasmolanov]

Originally Posted by Libertarian_Guard It has exchanged one empire for another, Byzantine for Ottoman.

If you study this history you will see how stupid this comment is.

I have all you need in the above posts.

Western Civilization was destroyed, people mass murdered and genocided,
a fake NWO creation, Turkey was created by Jews, Masons, Rothchilds,
on the bones of destroyed European peoples, and they plan to do this
to everyone. The author was only referring to Constantinople. Your comments are encompassing much more than a geographic location.

[Kryfamid]

Magnes,

You are a nut, or a troll. This whole website is full of kooks, or trolls pretending to be kooks, pretending to be Truthers. Hey man, Jackie the Jew killed JFK! The Jackie the Jew supporters are out in force! Some of you here seem like nice people, but the kook factor is strong. It is completely understandable why the original GIM shed this portion of their membership. It reminds me of Liberty Forum, but LF at least the absurdity was up front. Everyone knew the membership was absurd.

[chujwduperjadzi]

Magnes,

You are a nut, or a troll. This whole website is full of kooks, or trolls pretending to be kooks, pretending to be Truthers. Hey man, Jackie the Jew killed JFK! The Jackie the Jew supporters are out in force! Some of you here seem like nice people, but the kook factor is strong. It is completely understandable why the original GIM shed this portion of their membership. It reminds me of Liberty Forum, but LF at least the absurdity was up front. Everyone knew the membership was absurd.

I am not trying to kiss up to anyone, but Magnes has some points worth considering. I got the book he recommended on Byzantium , "Lost to the West" and while I haven't finished reading it yet, I agree with him that it is important to know this part of history, and the book seems solid.

Was Magnes active on the "Jackie the Jew" thread? No he wasn't - I just scanned the entire thread.

I myself had read up on JFK and was not aware that Jackie was Jewish - significant isn't it, not that she was Jewish but that for decades the media hid this from me and probably 200 million other Americans; a fair question to ask is "why"?

The rest of your post is not very relevant, as I don't even know what LF is, and unless you know skyvike personally, I can't see how you would know the reasons for moderators' behavior.

[abOfU9nJ]

Magnes,

You are a nut, or a troll. This whole website is full of kooks, or trolls pretending to be kooks, pretending to be Truthers. Hey man, Jackie the Jew killed JFK! The Jackie the Jew supporters are out in force! Some of you here seem like nice people, but the kook factor is strong. It is completely understandable why the original GIM shed this portion of their membership. It reminds me of Liberty Forum, but LF at least the absurdity was up front. Everyone knew the membership was absurd.

Damn! Where'd this come from all of a sudden? Magnes has a lot of good info. Never thought you'd go off the deep end DLT. I think most of us on this site like to discuss possibilities. We like to ask our what ifs and our say our goddamns and belabour the ought-to-be's. For the most part we don't know any absolute truths about history but it sure is good to ask instead of being brain dead sheep just taking the PTB's versions of history.

[mealiusarses]

Magnes,

You are a nut, or a troll. This whole website is full of kooks, or trolls pretending to be kooks, pretending to be Truthers. Hey man, Jackie the Jew killed JFK! The Jackie the Jew supporters are out in force! Some of you here seem like nice people, but the kook factor is strong. It is completely understandable why the original GIM shed this portion of their membership. It reminds me of Liberty Forum, but LF at least the absurdity was up front. Everyone knew the membership was absurd.

I go where real evidence points and the evidence says Jackie was Jewish and the Jews were responsible for the death of JFK.
Some people are narrow minded and cannot think outside of the walls they have put up to shield themselves from reality, you are one of them and this post of yours proves it.

For others who do have an open mind I present the website that opened my mind to some more of the truth.
http://realityreviewed.com/JFK%20murder.htm

and there is the yeomans work done by another truth seeker who was banned by skykike.
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=148254