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Old 04-20-2012, 03:38 PM   #1
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Default Ron Paul Projected 400 + Delegates , April 20 2012

Definitely close 2nd Place.

PROJECTED




MUST WATCH, chart and video same source, very level headed analysis.


Ron Paul Projected to be in 2nd Place with 380 Delegates!





ROMNEYS NUMBERS ARE PROJECTIONS AS WELL, NOT FACT

We know for a fact that these " official " numbers are blatant lies.
We have documented this on this forum, so have others.
Republican Delegate Count - Election 2012 - NYTimes.com



Ron Paul Winning Delegates With Santorum Support Coalition

With the suspension of Rick Santorum’s presidential campaign, mainline Republicans immediately began reporting that the race was over, and that Mitt Romney was the GOP nominee for the presidency. But Romney supporters may have started celebrating prematurely. If recent events are any indication, Ron Paul is a dangerous competitor.

First, Rick Santorum’s supporters have begun uniting with Paulistas on an anti-Romney slate at state conventions. Bolstered by this arrangement, Ron Paul is gathering large numbers of delegates even in states where he performed poorly in the initial voting. In Colorado, a state where Paul came in last place, a Paul/Santorum “Conservative Unity Slate” has captured the plurality of delegates, with Ron Paul leading the coalition. In addition, the Paul/Santorum alliance removed Romney supporter Ryan Call, Colorado State Party Chairman, from his seat as Delegation Chairman, as well as placed two of its own members on the state’s Rules Committee.

Similarly, in Minnesota, three district conventions were held, with Ron Paul winning every delegate. Much is also suspected in Missouri. And in states where Paul performed well, the effects are predicted to be even more dramatic.

Second, Ron Paul has the best chance to win over Evangelicals and even more Santorum supporters, as seen in events past and present. Remember that it was Ron Paul who won the Evangelical Values Voters Summit straw poll back in October of 2011. And recently, Paul declared his willingness to move the U.S. embassy in Israel to Jerusalem, symbolizing the city’s status as de facto capitol of the Jewish state. Moves like these help Ron Paul grab the support of Evangelicals reluctant to vote for Romney, a “Massachusetts moderate” and Mormon.

Finally, a recent poll by Rasmussen shows Ron Paul as the only candidate capable of beating Barack Obama. Republicans focused on removing Obama from office would be wise to support the candidate who stands out as truly different from the president. Unlike Romney, Ron Paul is not a “moderate” but rather a refreshingly sincere figure whose third-party style rhetoric is something so many Americans have been waiting for.

Onwards to Tampa!


Rumors of Ron Paul campaign demise greatly exaggerated | Washington Times Communities

Reuters reports that Paul is far behind in Wisconsin and that his supporters have finally conceded that he can’t win the nomination.

None of this is true. Romney has not secured 568 delegates. Hundreds of those delegates won’t be determined until Republican state conventions, many of which haven’t happened yet.

As I’ve reported before, there is very credible evidence that Ron Paul will emerge from those conventions with the majority of delegates in many states. Texas, New York and California haven’t even held their primaries yet. Those three states alone control over four hundred delegates.



YouTube - Ron Paul wins the St Charles caucus do-over in Missouri - Fox2 News

YouTube - Ron Paul Sweeps Minnesota Delegates!


Must Watch, some media acknowledge his support.
YouTube - Ron Paul Kicking Ass In Delegate Count!



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All this accomplishment despite the fraud exposed, media disrespect
and biased coverage. Where is the Fourth Estate ? Nonexistent ! Not
only is the MSM propagandist, they have even demonstrated hatred
for Ron Paul and his supporters and are operating as a Fifth Column.
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Old 04-20-2012, 03:45 PM   #2
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http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews...ate-convention

Paul's Strategy Working; Alaska GOP Tries to Block His Delegates From State Convention


Written by Joe Wolverton, II Friday, 20 April 2012 09:10 Despite the best efforts by the mainstream media to black out all news related to Ron Paul, word is leaking out that the Texas Congressman’s strategy to win delegates is succeeding.



First, the news from Missouri is very encouraging to those who recognize in Ron Paul the best hope for a President who will honor his oath of office to “preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States.”

On March 17, the Republican Party Caucus held in St. Charles County, Missouri, made national news after confrontations there resulted in two arrests and the failure of the group to award any delegates.

Last week, the county GOP tried again and this time the police were not involved, and delegates to the state and district conventions were elected and every one of the 147 delegates who will attend the two conventions will represent Ron Paul.

Paul’s Show Me State success comes despite the fact that former candidate Rick Santorum won the caucus vote in Missouri with 55 percent of the vote. Presumed nominee Mitt Romney finished second with 25 percent, and Ron Paul came in a distant third with only 12 percent of the vote.

Mike Carter, a candidate for Missouri Lieutenant Governor, was present at both caucus meetings and describes the very different atmosphere and outcome:

The March 17th venue wasn't expecting such a huge turnout. It swirled with rumors of rampant establishment-candidate favoritism, rule bending and disagreements about decorum. Tensions were high and things got out of hand. When we reconvened on April 10, things were much improved. The event was very organized and successful; of course, Ron Paul won very handily.

The GOP in Missouri is clearly dealing with new and growing forces within the party; the Ron Paul effort is more committed and organized than any party has witnessed in recent history — even more so than Obama's '08 machine. Paul's successes are steadily creeping up in several areas around the country, including Missouri, Minnesota, Colorado, Alaska, Maine, Texas and many more.

There is convincing evidence that Carter may be correct in his assessment of the actual delegate landscape in the Republican Party’s bid to take control of the White House from Barack Obama.

Take for example this headline from a Real Clear Politics story about the awarding of delegates in Colorado: “GOP has chosen 13 Romney delegates and six Santorum delegates. The remaining 17 delegates are unpledged, meaning they are free to choose any Republican candidate for president.”

In light of that information, the relevant inquiry becomes which of the other two Republican presidential hopefuls — former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich or Ron Paul — will win the support of these 17 unpledged delegates in the convention?

The likely answer is not surprising in light of the experience in Missouri. The Real Clear Politics article posits that, “Many would-be delegates criticized Romney, and some dejected Santorum fans teamed with Ron Paul supporters to push what they called a 'Conservative Unity Slate' to look for a non-Romney presidential candidate.”

In fact, word out of Colorado is that the push to elect ABR (“anybody but Romney”) was more successful than the article suggests.

Todd King of Lewis, Colorado, is one of those 17 ABR delegates. King is an avid advocate of a Ron Paul presidency and has committed to cast his vote for Paul at the national Republican Convention in Tampa in August.

In an article published in the Communities section of the Washington Times, Thomas Mullen reports the answer King gave him when asked about the breakdown of the 17 uncommitted delegates: “13 unpledged delegates, including me, will vote for Ron Paul on the first ballot. One unpledged delegate will vote for Santorum. The remaining three unpledged delegates, also known as the 'delegates at large,' are the state GOP Chairman, the state GOP National Committeman and the National Committeewoman. Those three will likely vote for Romney. They usually vote for the frontrunner so as not to make waves,” King claims.

It is important to recall, if for no other reason than as a point of reference, that when the popular vote was counted, Rick Santorum carried the state with 40 percent of the total ballots cast for him, former Massachusetts Governor Romney finished second with 35 percent, and Ron Paul, once again garnered a mere 12 percent of the caucus votes cast.

However, with the foregoing story of the commitment (or noncommitment) of delegates in mind, Ron Paul leapfrogs the other Republicans in the race for the White House, landing in a tie for the final count of delegates that will throw their support to the Texas Congressman when it really counts — in Tampa in August on the convention floor.

Once again, this scenario reinforces the widely held notion (among Paul voters) that popular vote, despite the colorful, virtual reality hype given to it by television news networks, is nearly meaningless compared to the more realpolitik value of a delegate-by-delegate campaign strategy such as that being followed by Ron Paul.

The news isn’t good from every corner of the country, however. As was reported on the Ron Paul 2012 campaign website, the Republican establishment in Alaska is overtly working to prevent Paul supporters from awarding their man the delegates representing our 49th state.

According to the report, GOP State Chairman Randy Reudrich (pictured above) is trying to “disenfranchise Paul and other non-Romney delegates to the party’s upcoming state convention.”

The Paul campaign is concerned about the efforts of Alaskan officialdom to block its access to the state convention (and ultimately the national convention) because as it reckons, their man “won a significant portion of delegates at the Alaska State House district conventions already held.”

Furthermore, given the suspension by Rick Santorum of his presidential campaign, the Paul camp is counting on the conversion of many of those delegates previously committed to Santorum to the cause of constitutionalism and its only presidential spokesman — Ron Paul.

Exactly how is the Alaska Republican Party trying to stack the delegate deck against the libertarian-leaning Ron Paul? Here’s the story from the Paul campaign website:

The Alaska Republican Party state convention is set to be held from April 26th-28th, and all previous communications to would-be delegates have stated that a delegate fee of $250 would be accepted up until the convention registration deadline, which is 2:00 p.m. Alaska Time on April 26th. However, on Monday the 16th state party chairman Randy Reudrich called a state committee meeting at which he stated that delegate fees would be accepted no later than 48 hours from the time of the meeting, which would be Wednesday, April 18th. However, on Tuesday the state party said that delegate fees had to be paid by 6:00 p.m that evening. As individual delegates and campaigns scrambled to pay delegate fees, the state party erected bizarre and allegedly extra-legal obstacles in front of Paul, prolife, and other non-Romney delegates, and communications between self-identifying non-Romney delegates and state party personnel degraded.

A Santorum supporter mused as to what could compel Reudrich to concoct such a scheme in the first place: “They are saying that GOP state chairman, Randy Reudrich, was promised a Romney job in Washington. He better hope that’s the case because he is finished in this state.”

Regardless of the self-serving motivations behind the placement of such impediments in Ron Paul’s path to the White House, the candidate is not going to take such malicious manipulation of the electoral process lying down. In a letter to Randy Reudrich from the law firm representing the Ron Paul 2012 campaign, Reudrich is informed that:

Should the Alaska Republican Party fail to appropriately address these issues immediately, and conform its behavior, the Paul Campaign will pursue all of the legal remedies available to ensure that the process is fair and legal and that the rights of citizens participating in this process are not violated.

Calls from The New American to the Alaska Republican Party asking for comment on the letter from the Ron Paul 2012 campaign's legal counsel were not returned by press time.
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Old 04-20-2012, 03:55 PM   #3
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Will Paul have enough delegates to force a brokered convention? If they force a second vote, Ron Paul could snatch the GOP nomination.
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Old 04-20-2012, 04:04 PM   #4
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Will Paul have enough delegates to force a brokered convention? If they force a second vote, Ron Paul could snatch the GOP nomination.
At this rate, for all we know, Ron Paul will win the nomination outright. With the MSM touting mitty as the declared favorite, a lot of the R's will think he has it in the bag and stay home, let alone get involved in any of the delegate processes and RP's people will certainly not stay home and are already involved in being delegates. There's still half the states to be decided and more that have state conventions upcoming, TX and CAL are huge states in terms of delegate counts and neither are very mitty friendly.
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Old 04-20-2012, 04:14 PM   #5
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At this rate, for all we know, Ron Paul will win the nomination outright. With the MSM touting mitty as the declared favorite, a lot of the R's will think he has it in the bag and stay home, let alone get involved in any of the delegate processes and RP's people will certainly not stay home and are already involved in being delegates. There's still half the states to be decided and more that have state conventions upcoming, TX and CAL are huge states in terms of delegate counts and neither are very mitty friendly.
I hardly dare to believe such a thing!!!
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Old 04-20-2012, 04:29 PM   #6
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At this rate, for all we know, Ron Paul will win the nomination outright.
That would be rich. The MSM is practically framing it already as Obama/Romney and then Ron Paul comes out as the winner at the convention. That would be highly entertaining.

Seriously, you could promote an Obama vs. Paul debate like a prize fight.
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Old 04-20-2012, 04:32 PM   #7
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I hardly dare to believe such a thing!!!
I certainly understand Neuro but at the same time don't we have to dare sometimes to believe? I wonder what the betting line was circa 1774 with us against Britain? If there was a Vegas equivalent at that time surely it had to be at least 5000 to 1? IDK what the odds were but astronomical would about sum it up, yet here we are.
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Old 04-20-2012, 04:56 PM   #8
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That would be rich. The MSM is practically framing it already as Obama/Romney and then Ron Paul comes out as the winner at the convention. That would be highly entertaining.

Seriously, you could promote an Obama vs. Paul debate like a prize fight.
In a one-on-one debate where the MSM could no longer ignore him, Paul would absolutely destroy Obama. It would be glorious: the blazing light of truth melting the lying brown pile of shit and lies.
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Old 04-21-2012, 12:48 AM   #9
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They're scairt!

Romney asks GOP delegates to sign pledge, but some refuse


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CNN Political Reporter Peter Hamby Scottsdale, Arizona (CNN) - Members of the Republican National Committee gathering in Arizona were invited to meet with Mitt Romney in private Friday and have their pictures taken with the presumptive GOP nominee, but there was a price of admission: loyalty.
RNC members and state GOP chairmen were welcomed into the private reception only after signing a form pledging to support Romney as a delegate to the national convention in Tampa.

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All 168 members of the committee have a vote at the convention as "superdelegates" – and one of Romney's supporters on the RNC estimated that over 100 members signed the form.
The Romney "delegate pledge form" asked members to sign their name and "pledge to vote for Mitt Romney at the 2012 Republican National Convention on all ballots until Mitt Romney has been nominated."

Signers were given the option of declaring their support publicly or privately by checking one of two boxes.
Several state Republican chairmen who have not publicly endorsed a candidate - including party leaders from South Carolina, Ohio and California - signed the pledge.
Romney spoke only briefly and spent roughly 20 minutes shaking hands and posing with members in a photo line.
"This is where all the power is, huh?" Romney joked as he entered the room to applause. "Thank you for all your work. Thank you for your help."
Not everyone was allowed to join in the fun.

All three members of Iowa's conservative RNC delegation – party chairman A.J. Spiker and committee members Steve Scheffler and Kim Lehman – attempted to enter the reception but were rebuffed after refusing to sign the delegate pledge.

The dispute became heated in the hallway outside, with the Iowans demanding to know why they had to sign a form to get their picture taken with the former Massachusetts governor.
Several of Romney's deputies on the committee assured the trio that they could keep their support a secret by checking the appropriate box, but they refused to do so.
"They don't trust us," a frustrated Scheffler said after the argument. "I have said I will support the nominee when we have a nominee, no ifs, ands or buts."
The Iowa delegates were later given the opportunity to pose for a photo with Romney at a luncheon for RNC members, after the private event for supporters.
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Old 04-21-2012, 01:02 AM   #10
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Doesn't anyone remember Hillary/Barack trying to swing as many Super Delegates as possible at the last minute?

Me thinks the R's don't want Mittens shoved down their throats like McPain was.

It's not over 'til the fat lady sings!
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Old 04-21-2012, 01:11 AM   #11
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The method that Ron is using is the one that Obama used to get elected, the delegate strategy. The major difference is, is that the 2012 strategy for RP was set into motion 4+ yrs ago, mitty thought he had it shoed in and is squirmin' now.
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Old 04-21-2012, 01:13 AM   #12
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Mittys a done deal, he will clean floors if wanted anywhere.
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Old 04-21-2012, 01:31 AM   #13
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Mittys a done deal, he will clean floors if wanted anywhere.
He and the GOP ain't done yet and they will not go down easily, nor will the D's, MSM. MIC or the rest of the slime. We ARE a force! Just by talking about it right here and now gives it life!
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Old 04-21-2012, 07:58 PM   #14
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Some great news out of MN!!! Here's some snippets I'm tracking.

Twitter: "3/3 in cd2 and 3/3/ in cd4. Clean sweeps."

“@JoeRepya: After visiting CD 2 convention I'm amazed at the number of Ron Paul people. All 3 RNC delegates to Ron Paul supporters. MNGOP appears dead.”
https://twitter.com/joerepya/status/193785345136013312

" Neo-cons were gnashing their teeth all day here in CD-4."
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Old 04-21-2012, 08:31 PM   #15
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I certainly understand Neuro but at the same time don't we have to dare sometimes to believe? I wonder what the betting line was circa 1774 with us against Britain? If there was a Vegas equivalent at that time surely it had to be at least 5000 to 1? IDK what the odds were but astronomical would about sum it up, yet here we are.
it's sort of ironic.

it reminds me of the "Audacity of Hope" - wasn't that the book title, written by the Obama-esque scum-bag we would like to see un-seated ?


the basic idea being - Don't Give Up on Ron Paul.


overall, i would like to understand the details of Delegates clearly. it sounds like Ron Paul has enough delegates to be a force at the convention.


an Obama-Paul contest would be a dream come true.
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Old 04-21-2012, 11:46 PM   #16
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MN update...

https://twitter.com/#!/rebeccapeiche...25226524602368

So here's what we have:

CD1: 2 Paul, 1 Romney
CD2: 3 Paul
CD3: 3 Paul
CD4: 3 Paul
CD5: 3 Paul
CD6: 3 Paul
CD7: 1 Paul, 2 Santorum
CD8: 2 Paul, 1 unknown

Total:

Paul: 20
Santorum: 2
Romney: 1

And one more from CD8 that is unknown.
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Old 04-22-2012, 12:11 AM   #17
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MN update...

https://twitter.com/#!/rebeccapeiche...25226524602368

So here's what we have:

CD1: 2 Paul, 1 Romney
CD2: 3 Paul
CD3: 3 Paul
CD4: 3 Paul
CD5: 3 Paul
CD6: 3 Paul
CD7: 1 Paul, 2 Santorum
CD8: 2 Paul, 1 unknown

Total:

Paul: 20
Santorum: 2
Romney: 1

And one more from CD8 that is unknown.
Ha ha! WOW!
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Old 04-23-2012, 02:36 PM   #18
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Ron Paul Wins Minnesota Delegates by a Landslide

By David Weigel
Posted Monday, April 23, 2012, at 9:14 AM

A few weeks back, when Rick Santorum was arguing that he could power out delegate wins by organizing the little-noticed state conventions and caucuses, I agreed with him. And then Santorum quit. This left the state delegate pool hot and panting for Romneymentum, right?


Not quite yet. Over the weekend, Minnesota held congressional district conventions. Now, the state's February caucus -- one of the trio of non-binding contests Santorum won early that month -- went 45 percent for Santorum, 27 percent for Paul, and only 17 percent for Romney. The Associated Press and other groups went on to estimate that Santorum would win 17 of Minnesota's delegates, Paul would win 10, and Romney 6. Wrong. Ron Paul dominated the CD conventions. According to a tweet from RNC committeewoman Pat Anderson, Paul took 20 of the 24 delegates available in the CDs.

That's 20 delegates more than the zero that Paul got from Minnesota in 2008. Keep watching this. The Paul movement spent five years prepping for a guerilla delegate campaign, and they're going to be the last Republicans who refuse to settle for Romney. This was the point of Paul's non-alignment pact with the frontrunner. With Santorum out and Gingrich staggering like an extra in Re-Animator, Paul's movement is free to take over the state contests.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/20...landslide.html
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Old 04-23-2012, 03:09 PM   #19
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An update for Oklahoma!

District 1: 3 delegates and 2 alternates - Santorum and other. Ron Paul - 1 alternate. Note, we lost the almost the whole thing by 2 votes.

District 2: Unknown, but I believe we lost the whole thing by a handful of votes to Santorum supporters.

District 3: Total Ron Paul domination! All 3 delegates, all 3 alternates and both Electors are Ron Paul supporters.

District 4: (toady) Total Ron Paul domination! All 3 delegates, all 3 alternates and both Electors are Ron Paul supporters.

District 5: Near total Ron Paul domination! All 3 delegates, all 3 alternates and one Elector are Ron Paul supporters. One elector is a weak Santorum supporter.

Next month is the state convention, where we will hopefully wim the rest of our delegates for Ron Paul. We're looking at a little rules change to ice the cake.

Santorum was the winner in the Oklahoma primary race, so delegates pledged to him are essentially free. There was some discussion by the establishment about us throwing our support behind Romney, but we decided that doesn't really work for us. We've go a little housekeeping to do at the State convention in May.
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Old 04-23-2012, 03:17 PM   #20
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Of course you hear not a peep of this anywhere outside the Ron Paul supporters. Everyone is so sure its Romney now, they are ignoring not only Paul, but the whole process altogether. Thats good for Paul.

I've still no doubt in my mind that this is all 100% rigged. O'Romney was chosen and they will do whatever, no matter how illegal, how in your face, how outright blatant and corrupt, to make sure its Romeny. I wouldnt put it past them to straight up say at the GOP Convention that "Ron Pauls delegate votes will NOT be counted." Straight out.

But, I digress. This is still GREAT news for Paul as it puts the GOP in a position where they can NOT ignore him. Whether they treat him like a saint or like a lepor, they WILL be forced to recognize that this man exist and there in lies the risk of "animating" the people by their decisions.

Its gonna be interesting in August........
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