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Old 01-11-2012, 02:59 PM   #1
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Default At a Romney Event Yesterday, I Was Removed and Arrested. I Still Don't Know Why.
This is a creepy story.

At a Romney Event Yesterday, I Was Removed and Arrested. I Still Don't Know Why.

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I’d been in New Hampshire for the past several days to follow the campaign and see some of the candidates in-person. Yesterday morning, I was chatting up a Romney campaign staffer before an event at the Gilchrist Manufacturing Company in Hudson, NH, when a police officer approached. Sir, we have to ask you to leave the premises...
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Old 01-11-2012, 03:06 PM   #2
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I'm so tired of this crap.
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Old 01-11-2012, 03:07 PM   #3
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That is a weird story.
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Old 01-11-2012, 03:09 PM   #4
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don't worry it's only going to get better. look what was introduced on monday. we're taking away your citizenship now, bitchez!

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill...66&tab=summary
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Old 01-11-2012, 03:10 PM   #5
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HUDSON, N.H. (CBS) – One person was arrested at Mitt Romney’s campaign event at a business in Hudson Monday.

The owner of Gilchrist Metal Fabricating asked the man to leave and he refused.
Police stepped in and arrested him for trespassing. http://boston.cbslocal.com/2012/01/0...ampaign-event/

You can't go in old blue jeans to a Romney event...
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Old 01-11-2012, 03:11 PM   #6
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I see a lot of contract offers. The author didn't know how to properly present a couner-offer.

As the officers were working for both the city and the campaign there is certainly the opportunity to lien up both of them.
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Old 01-11-2012, 03:16 PM   #7
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Someone should leave some comments on his blog to help him wake up.....He is 1/2 way there. Maybe even leave a GSUS forum invite.
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Old 01-11-2012, 03:17 PM   #8
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I see a lot of contract offers. The author didn't know how to properly present a couner-offer.

As the officers were working for both the city and the campaign there is certainly the opportunity to lien up both of them.
You don't really believe the police would engage you in this type of back and forth do you? I mean, do you think there's a chance in hell you won't be arrested when they tell you "leave or you're under arrest"?
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Old 01-11-2012, 03:29 PM   #9
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What a bunch of fucking cockholsters!

Looks like the mitty crew is practicing flexing their might and the hell of it is it's just the tip of the iceberg if that assclown gets inside the WH, you ain't seen nothin' yet if that happens.
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Old 01-11-2012, 03:49 PM   #10
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I haven't read the article, but if the property owner asked the guy to leave and he refused, then he was guilty of trespass.
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Old 01-11-2012, 03:56 PM   #11
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I haven't read the article, but if the property owner asked the guy to leave and he refused, then he was guilty of trespass.
That is not the case.
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Old 01-11-2012, 04:01 PM   #12
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That is not the case.
But it's close...

I asked again to speak to someone from the campaign or the company who owned the plant. The officer refused; the company had delegated authority to the campaign, and the campaign had authorized the police to remove anyone the campaign didn’t want present. But wouldn’t it be simple for me to just talk to someone and explain the mistake? Too many people around, the cop said. Apparently it would be too big a bother. I either had to leave or face charges for criminal trespass. The company allegedly gave permission to the campaign to keep out who they did not want there.

I don't like it either, but it's not unlawful.

Now, the dude COULD have gone back to the public street, and if he were unlawfully arrested there, he could have filed suit.
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Old 01-11-2012, 04:06 PM   #13
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I know. I agree with you.
Even though the owner, the campaign and the security force are three separate entities.

But I take issue with the whole "Don't go back to that area" bullshit. That's the fisrt thing I would have done, with witnesses.
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Old 01-11-2012, 04:22 PM   #14
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The 1st "wrong" was committed by mitty's people as the guy had done nothing wrong to deserve such treatment, that irks me more than anything.

Having said that...Dudeman was a dufus, he should have said "fine, if that's the way you want it you'll not get my vote" and walked....straight over to the RP event and donated that $40 bail to the campaign that actually gives a fuck about his liberty. Sometimes good lessons are hard learned.
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Old 01-11-2012, 04:23 PM   #15
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HUDSON, N.H. (CBS) – One person was arrested at Mitt Romney’s campaign event at a business in Hudson Monday.

The owner of Gilchrist Metal Fabricating asked the man to leave and he refused.
Police stepped in and arrested him for trespassing.
What you guys don't trust the news?

It must have been a red tie event.
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Old 01-11-2012, 05:05 PM   #16
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You don't really believe the police would engage you in this type of back and forth do you?
Either you don't believe in due process or believe that acting like a whipped dog will get a doggy biscuit as a special treat.



I mean, do you think there's a chance in hell you won't be arrested when they tell you "leave or you're under arrest"?
I have heard a sheriff tell someone that they don't have to arrest anyone even if they see a crime committed in front of them. No. It is merely a contract offer. Ask to see a business card. If the guy had a share of publiclly traded stock he could ask them "How is it that you think you have the authority to throw me off my own property?"
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Old 01-11-2012, 06:01 PM   #17
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Either you don't believe in due process or believe that acting like a whipped dog will get a doggy biscuit as a special treat.



I have heard a sheriff tell someone that they don't have to arrest anyone even if they see a crime committed in front of them. No. It is merely a contract offer. Ask to see a business card. If the guy had a share of publiclly traded stock he could ask them "How is it that you think you have the authority to throw me off my own property?"
I wasn't speak with regard to the law. Toss it out the window. I'm speak with regard to what would ACTUALLY happen to you in this situation. Do you really believe the officer would debate you on whether or not to arrest you if you choose NOT to follow his commands?
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Old 01-11-2012, 06:19 PM   #18
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Do you really believe the officer would debate you on whether or not to arrest you if you choose NOT to follow his commands?
All commands are not lawful.

Do you believe in the Neuremberg defense (I was just following orders)?

If it is not a lawful order then it must be a commercial order. As you are up to your neck in commerce then tell him what the charges are going to be and proceed to execute his order. Be sure and send a bill afterwards because otherwise you might be charged with attempting to bribe an officer of the "law".
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Old 01-11-2012, 06:21 PM   #19
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....and then they taze you.
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Old 01-11-2012, 06:31 PM   #20
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....and then they taze you.
Geez Louise, when a coppiceman enters Dunkin' Donuts he isn't going to get good service if he tazes the waitress on a whim. What a way to put a damper on contract negotiations.
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