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Old 01-05-2012, 09:40 PM   #1
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Default A Bit of a Balancing Act for Republicans Critical of Paul
You can bet your ass they're panicked, in an open across the board primary and a totally honest election including the media, RP would dominate. They also don't want to lose any more of their power and it seems they're in a pickle because some of the truly more conservative R's, particularly the teaparty people are drifting RP's way.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/05/us...paul.html?_r=1

MANCHESTER, N.H. — Republicans who were alarmed by the strong performance of Representative Ron Paul in Tuesday’s Iowa caucuses must tread carefully as they deal with his rise: he has legions of supporters and could mount an independent bid should be fail to get the party’s nomination.

Surveys of voters as they prepared to caucus on Tuesday underscored the power that Mr. Paul, a Texan, has to draw young voters, first-time voters and independents to the Republican Party. These groups are sought after by a party seeking to broaden its base, and they can be critical to turning out the vote in the general election, as Barack Obama proved in 2008.
Mr. Paul has so far said he has “no intention” of competing in November unless he wins the Republican nomination.

The 76-year-old Mr. Paul, the oldest candidate in the presidential race, had strong backing from those under 40 on Tuesday night, winning support from half of caucusgoers 24 and under and from nearly half of those between 25 and 29, according to surveys conducted by Edison Research for television networks and The Associated Press.

He also won about a third of the vote among people in their 30s, the data suggest. The only age group that Mitt Romney won, according to the exit poll, was caucusgoers 65 and older, helping propel him to victory.
Mr. Paul — who arrives here in New Hampshire on Friday seeking to shore up support before next week’s primary — also won the support of one-third of first-time caucusgoers, suggesting his ability to draw new voters to the polls.
“If we marginalize these supporters who have been touched by Ron Paul and what he has believed in over all these years, well, then, through either a third-party run of Ron Paul’s or the Democrats being able to capture some of those independents and these Libertarians who have supported what Ron Paul’s been talking about, well, then the G.O.P. is going to lose,” Sarah Palin said Tuesday on Fox News.

But while his lower-tax, antigovernment platform lines up with the goals of economic conservatives in the party, his antiwar and noninterventionist foreign policy is viewed as heretical by many of the same voters. Gov. Rick Perry of Texas has even gone as far as suggesting that Mr. Paul would allow Iran to build nuclear weapons to “wipe Israel off the face of the earth,” with the United States perhaps to follow. But Mr. Perry’s state chairman in South Carolina, Katon Dawson, drew a distinction between candidate-driven campaign-trail attacks on Mr. Paul and any deeper criticism by the Republican establishment.

“I don’t think you can say the Republican Party is whacking Ron Paul. I haven’t seen evidence of it,” said Mr. Dawson. But he said the party must be careful not to alienate his supporters, especially independents, whose numbers are growing faster than those of voters registered in either party.

“We need them,” he said. “Barack Obama has got all hands on deck, and we have to have every independent that comes in the booth. There is a risk of alienating a lot of groups the Republican Party needs.”

The question is, Just how many of Mr. Paul’s supporters really are potential Republican loyalists? Some of his organizers are famously known for saying they would work for him or for no one.
In fact, the Iowa surveys also confirmed what rival Republican campaigns have long maintained: that as much of Mr. Paul’s support comes from those who are not Republicans as from those who are. Independent voters — who made up about a quarter of caucusgoers — supported Mr. Paul 43 percent of the time, the data suggests. Among those who identified themselves as Republicans — three-quarters of caucusgoers — he picked up just 14 percent.

That support base could hamper him in primaries in which voting is limited to registered members of the party.
The bottom line: Mr. Paul’s absolute vote total in Iowa was split close to evenly between Republicans and independents, while the other leading candidates got 80 percent or more of their support from self-identified Republicans.
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Old 01-05-2012, 10:12 PM   #2
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i think Ron Paul because of his honesty will bring out a lot of people who have given up on voting.

which is 50% of the adults old enough to vote. they have just given up on voting.

i think in the last election, about 110 million Americans voted - in that ballpark.

that means 110 million stayed home or didn't use an absentee ballot.

if just 10% of those people - or 15% - see Ron Paul making sense on TV - even with Fox bashing him - that's 11 million to 16.5 million people - in a election vote where "50-50" is 55 million per candidate.


Ron Paul can kick Obama's ass. That's why there's so much pressure in the Repugnant Party Establishment to deny Ron Paul the chance to connect with voters and to receive the nomination.
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Old 01-06-2012, 02:01 AM   #3
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Ron Paul can kick Obama's ass. That's why there's so much pressure in the Repugnant Party Establishment to deny Ron Paul the chance to connect with voters and to receive the nomination. You seem to think it is the voters who decide which candidate wins. It's the candidate that spends the most money. It's more about money than about votes. I wonder how much you have to bribe people to engage in vote fraud? I bet they go for cheap.


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Old 01-06-2012, 02:35 AM   #4
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You will see the poleticians and the news treating Ron Paul in a different way the closer that we get to the general elections, after all........he could be the next president.............and the Zionist? shhhhhhhhh nowhere to be found.
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