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Old 12-20-2011, 07:36 PM   #21
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What truth, it appears you make up yours, as you go along.
There is truth in what you say. We all tend to make up our own truths.
NO EVIDENCE
You hold all the evidence you need in your wallet.
NO COURT CITES
Have you figured out that the lack of something is evidence in itself?
NO LAW CITES
My notice is my law.
NOTHING EXCEPT BULLSHIT.
You seem to be describing your own argument rather than mine.
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Old 12-20-2011, 07:41 PM   #22
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Not everybody is enthralled with old George.
Old George can handle his own defense. I find many of his old programs enlightening.

One thing I do notice. Old George had enough sense to give up on the drivers license issue. Now I understand he has a driver. That seems to be the most responsible approach. If you get stopped a number of times without a license they make up a crime "driving while barred" and throw you in prison for life. Look it up. There is no crime on the books "driving while barred".
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Old 12-20-2011, 08:23 PM   #23
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There is truth in what you say. We all tend to make up our own truths.
You hold all the evidence you need in your wallet.
Have you figured out that the lack of something is evidence in itself?
My notice is my law.
You seem to be describing your own argument rather than mine.
I am not asserting anything, it is you who is making all the claims and have nothing to back it up with.

That is the definition of BULLSHIT.
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Old 12-20-2011, 08:47 PM   #24
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my prospective employer Univac
You ever work on the UMAC 7?
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Old 12-20-2011, 08:51 PM   #25
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I am not asserting anything, it is you who is making all the claims and have nothing to back it up with.

That is the definition of BULLSHIT.
One of my claims was that "there is truth in what you say". You say this is BULLSHIT. Why would I disagree with you?
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Old 12-20-2011, 08:55 PM   #26
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One definition of "birth":

BIRTH, n. The first and direst of all disasters. As to the nature of it there appears to be no uniformity. Castor and Pollux were born from the egg. Pallas came out of a skull. Galatea was once a block of stone. Peresilis, who wrote in the tenth century, avers that he grew up out of the ground where a priest had spilled holy water. It is known that Arimaxus was derived from a hole in the earth, made by a stroke of lightning. Leucomedon was the son of a cavern in Mount Aetna, and I have myself seen a man come out of a wine cellar.
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Old 12-20-2011, 08:57 PM   #27
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So who doesn't have a birth certificate?
Just because you don't know how doesn't mean there aren't people out there who don't have a US birth certificate.

* Tourists don't.
* Resident aliens don't.
* Illegals don't
* Legals that are other nationals (say, with money) that live here (purchased real estate, work etc., think all these Indian guys doing IT)
* Even President of this country, Kenyan / Indonesian citizen Barry Soetoro "Obama" doesn't.

I am legal yet I do not have a US birth certificate.

How many people is that? here's a report of Naturalized citizens:
http://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/s...tz_fr_2010.pdf
1 million + in 2008, 743000 in 2009, 619000 in 2010.

Probably more in earlier years due to huge immigration of jews from eastern europe and Russia, so just count roughly 1 mil. per year.
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Old 12-20-2011, 08:58 PM   #28
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True. A Naturalization Certificate records the "birth" of a new citizen.

It has been suggested that anything with an original signature on it is capable of being hypothecated as a debt. Such as personal checks, which no longer find their way back into your possession.

[As an aside I notice a commercial where a guy deposits a check into his bank account by taking a photo of it with his phone and electronically transferring it ... the commercial doesn't even show him photographing the reverse side of the check ... so endorsement seems unnecessary now. The original stays with him then and would not be available for fractionalizing .... leading to the speculation that they have so much paper they can fractionalize they can afford to discard (waste) some]
LOL... Gold isn't money, silly! A picture of a debt instrument with no endorsement is money! Write that down.
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Old 12-20-2011, 09:05 PM   #29
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The math is solid. It is the principle of fractional reserve lending that creates the problem.


I might have had one until I reached majority. When it became my decision to produce it or not then the thing vanished and cannot be located.
So it's not a bad thing to not know where your BC is? Because, I honestly don't. Everyone that knew where it was has died since, so I can't ask them.
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Old 12-20-2011, 09:23 PM   #30
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So it's not a bad thing to not know where your BC is? Because, I honestly don't. Everyone that knew where it was has died since, so I can't ask them.
You might go back to the hospital you were delivered in and see if they kept a copy of the hospital birth certificate (the one with two tiny baby feet ... your organic contract). This "unofficial" one in my estimation is of more value than the hypothecated one.
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Old 12-21-2011, 02:21 PM   #31
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You might go back to the hospital you were delivered in and see if they kept a copy of the hospital birth certificate (the one with two tiny baby feet ... your organic contract). This "unofficial" one in my estimation is of more value than the hypothecated one.
Road trip!!

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Old 12-21-2011, 02:53 PM   #32
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Just because you don't know how doesn't mean there aren't people out there who don't have a US birth certificate.

* Tourists don't.
* Resident aliens don't.
* Illegals don't
* Legals that are other nationals (say, with money) that live here (purchased real estate, work etc., think all these Indian guys doing IT)
* Even President of this country, Kenyan / Indonesian citizen Barry Soetoro "Obama" doesn't.

I am legal yet I do not have a US birth certificate.

How many people is that? here's a report of Naturalized citizens:
http://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/s...tz_fr_2010.pdf
1 million + in 2008, 743000 in 2009, 619000 in 2010.

Probably more in earlier years due to huge immigration of jews from eastern europe and Russia, so just count roughly 1 mil. per year.
I never said there weren't people iwthout birth certificates. There are plenty of people in third world nations who don't have birth certificates. I'm asking who here doesn't have one. If you're a legal resident but were delivered elsewhere in a different coutnry, how did you prove to the state that you are who you say you are? If you're a naturalized citizen, you're in the same position as those who were birthed here and certificated. You still have a strawman created, which is bonded, and sold as chattel.

And as far as I know, this birth certificate-bond-chattel babylonian system exists everywhere, so just because you were birthed in, for example, mexico and became naturalized in the US doesn't mean you're somehow excluded from a birth certificate which is bought and sold.


Besides palani admits the whole system is based on fractional reserve, where 1 is created into many. How can you have many from one? The bible clearly speaks of such things.
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Old 12-21-2011, 02:58 PM   #33
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They might have a piece of paper at the dept of commerce. I have no intention of ever animating it (or accepting any connection to it ... same thing).
I doubt if they lied to you. They just didn't give you all the facts. They do that all the time. You really have to ask questions, like "What statute requires that my children must have birth certificates?" [Let him who would be deceived be deceived.
half truth is half deception, and he who deceives is of the devil and a liar, which leads to fraud. fraud nullifies any contract.
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Old 12-21-2011, 03:45 PM   #34
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Besides palani admits the whole system is based on fractional reserve, where 1 is created into many.
The fractional reserve system is based upon assets on the books. At the end of the day (every day) the books balance. Ask any CPA or bank president.


How can you have many from one? The bible clearly speaks of such things.
I suppose if you can have E PLURIBUS UNUM (out of many one) you can also have E UNUM PLURIBUS (out of one many).
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Old 12-21-2011, 03:47 PM   #35
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half truth is half deception, and he who deceives is of the devil and a liar, which leads to fraud. fraud nullifies any contract.
"prove all things"
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Old 12-21-2011, 03:48 PM   #36
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half truth is half deception, and he who deceives is of the devil and a liar, which leads to fraud. fraud nullifies any contract.
Surely does. In older times the test was by lion, where you are permitted to be right, dead right.
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