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**KignPeeseeamn** · 04-17-2007, 09:56 PM

Airs here tonight. Check your local listings.
http://www.wgbh.org/schedules/progra...ode_id=3273702

**KignPeeseeamn** · 04-18-2007, 03:52 AM

Damn sox game. I forgot it was on! D'oh!

**TainuibeFaimb** · 04-18-2007, 06:26 AM

Thanks for the link, Heather!

I watched part of it; found it very interesting!

**M_Marked** · 04-18-2007, 01:03 PM

Great show! I met Dan Hinkly last year...great guy...he has certainly been around! I didn't realize he would be featured on the show. It was a real bonus seeing him there!

**KignPeeseeamn** · 04-18-2007, 01:49 PM

Oh Jeez, it was Dan Hinkley? He spoke here last week and I spent a good part of yesterday looking for his address.

Sigh...

**tadacia** · 04-18-2007, 04:13 PM

I've only seen about half of it so far... But I want one of those Cyp. tibeticum or whatever that purple cyp was. Super sweet...

**KignPeeseeamn** · 04-18-2007, 04:45 PM

It's on again tonight so I'm hoping to catch it.

**tadacia** · 04-18-2007, 05:06 PM

Tivo, baby. I was watching Nova in the breaks during the Redwings game.

**KignPeeseeamn** · 04-18-2007, 05:14 PM

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**tadacia** · 04-18-2007, 05:16 PM

Doesn't have anything better to do now than watch TV... Sounds boring to me.

**KignPeeseeamn** · 04-19-2007, 04:05 AM

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**gDGwm8BC** · 04-19-2007, 07:46 PM

Did anyone else wonder if the gene sequencuing information is availible for our perusal? The claim was that thousands of plants were evaluated and close relationships were determined .
Wouldn't this be a way to determine what species are closely related, figure what plants will cross potentially....and for example is mexiped.... is it close or distant from the phrags....or which phrag is closest to which paph to attempt a more promising cross species cross.....

**tadacia** · 04-19-2007, 08:10 PM

Well... I'm afraid it isn't quite the information you are looking for.

Most of the molecular phylogeny analysis looks at only a few regions of a few very well conserved genes. They aren't actually sequencing the entire genome for any of these organisms. Or even sequencing an entire single gene! But, there are a lot of orchids with published sequences for those few genes. So, at NCBI (the National Center for Biotechnology Information), there are 19,500 nucleotide sequence records.

I don't have time to break it down too much, but about 8000 of them are from mRNA sequencing projects (EST sequencing), it looks like that is one project comparing Phal violacea to Phal. equestris flower buds (in Taiwan, of course). There are about 400 sequences for other mRNAs. I'd bet the rest are all sort sequences generated in molecular phylogeny projects.

if you really want to browse...
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/Taxonomy...e=Info&id=4747

**johnuioyer** · 04-24-2007, 04:16 PM

Well I missed this TV program but...Heroes started again last night.

**yPuqQ248** · 04-24-2007, 06:06 PM

Tivoed Heros and saw the Nova program. It was interesting, the fossils were amazing. Even hubbie enjoyed it.

04-17-2007, 09:56 PM	#1
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04-18-2007, 06:26 AM	#3
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04-18-2007, 01:03 PM	#4
M_Marked Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 563 Senior Member	Great show! I met Dan Hinkly last year...great guy...he has certainly been around! I didn't realize he would be featured on the show. It was a real bonus seeing him there! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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04-18-2007, 01:49 PM	#5
KignPeeseeamn Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 460 Senior Member	Oh Jeez, it was Dan Hinkley? He spoke here last week and I spent a good part of yesterday looking for his address. Sigh... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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04-18-2007, 04:13 PM	#6
tadacia Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 438 Senior Member	I've only seen about half of it so far... But I want one of those Cyp. tibeticum or whatever that purple cyp was. Super sweet... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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04-18-2007, 04:45 PM	#7
KignPeeseeamn Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 460 Senior Member	It's on again tonight so I'm hoping to catch it. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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04-18-2007, 05:06 PM	#8
tadacia Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 438 Senior Member	Tivo, baby. I was watching Nova in the breaks during the Redwings game. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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04-19-2007, 07:46 PM	#12
gDGwm8BC Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 563 Senior Member	Did anyone else wonder if the gene sequencuing information is availible for our perusal? The claim was that thousands of plants were evaluated and close relationships were determined . Wouldn't this be a way to determine what species are closely related, figure what plants will cross potentially....and for example is mexiped.... is it close or distant from the phrags....or which phrag is closest to which paph to attempt a more promising cross species cross..... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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04-19-2007, 08:10 PM	#13
tadacia Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 438 Senior Member	Well... I'm afraid it isn't quite the information you are looking for. Most of the molecular phylogeny analysis looks at only a few regions of a few very well conserved genes. They aren't actually sequencing the entire genome for any of these organisms. Or even sequencing an entire single gene! But, there are a lot of orchids with published sequences for those few genes. So, at NCBI (the National Center for Biotechnology Information), there are 19,500 nucleotide sequence records. I don't have time to break it down too much, but about 8000 of them are from mRNA sequencing projects (EST sequencing), it looks like that is one project comparing Phal violacea to Phal. equestris flower buds (in Taiwan, of course). There are about 400 sequences for other mRNAs. I'd bet the rest are all sort sequences generated in molecular phylogeny projects. if you really want to browse... http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/Taxonomy...e=Info&id=4747 Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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04-24-2007, 04:16 PM	#14
johnuioyer Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 702 Senior Member	Well I missed this TV program but...Heroes started again last night. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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04-24-2007, 06:06 PM	#15
yPuqQ248 Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 431 Senior Member	Tivoed Heros and saw the Nova program. It was interesting, the fossils were amazing. Even hubbie enjoyed it. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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