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Old 02-28-2008, 07:01 PM   #1
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Default Police Department kills 4 students...
If you keep distorting the truth like that, DD, you're going to end up in politics.
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Old 02-28-2008, 08:30 PM   #2
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Can't you feel the EVIL gripping you?? My god, you're turning into Bill Clinton before my very eyes!!
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Old 02-28-2008, 08:34 PM   #3
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Originally posted by Arrian
Sounds like the authorities were working on it. I'm not really sure why the boyfriend being pulled over is the same as her being pulled over. I was pulled over and ticketed once while driving my wife's (then girlfriend) car. I don't recall the cop even talking to her. The January incident apparently wasn't the first time Franco had been stopped on the road.

In 2006, a Montevideo cop ticketed a woman who went by the name Alianiss Morales after she plowed into a resident's yard. The officer cited her for driving without a license.

But of course, OMG if we just kick out all the illegal immigrants everything will be so much better!!11!! If we had kicked this one out in May of 06, 4 people would be alive and others wouldn't be in the hospital recovering from an acident that could have been prevented with a phone call.
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Old 02-28-2008, 08:41 PM   #4
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edit: DanSed.

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Old 02-28-2008, 08:51 PM   #5
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Old 02-28-2008, 08:54 PM   #6
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Question (serious one):

If a person is pulled over and lacks a valid license, what happens? They get a ticket, right? Anything else? Is there followup? Is proving citizenship part of it? Does it even come into play?

What I'm getting at is whether or not the cop who cited her for driving w/o a license in 2006 really "failed to do his job." I'm not sure that's the case.

-Arrian
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Old 02-28-2008, 08:57 PM   #7
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Possible solution that don't involve mass deportations:

Every car comes with a card reader. You must insert your license, or the car won't start. Big penalties for letting others use your license.

This, plus some sort of drunk detector that won't let you drive drunk, would be a way of keeping dangerous drivers off the road.

But that's not as much fun as deporting illegals...

-Arrian

p.s. Such solutions would be expensive, of course, and some might see than as overly intrusive. But, I mean... won't someone think of the children!!11!!
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Old 02-28-2008, 09:07 PM   #8
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Originally posted by Arrian
Possible solution that don't involve mass deportations: Question (serious one):

Who in this thread has mentioned the words mass deportations other than you? Also how do you get all the straw from your hair?
If a person is pulled over and lacks a valid license, what happens? They get a ticket, right? Anything else? Is there followup? Is proving citizenship part of it? Does it even come into play? I was threatened with arrest after an accident when I couldn't produce the license fast enough for the cop's tastes and he started to think I didn't have one.
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Old 02-28-2008, 09:11 PM   #9
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Originally posted by Arrian
Question (serious one):

If a person is pulled over and lacks a valid license, what happens? They get a ticket, right? Anything else? Is there followup? Is proving citizenship part of it? Does it even come into play?

What I'm getting at is whether or not the cop who cited her for driving w/o a license in 2006 really "failed to do his job." I'm not sure that's the case.

-Arrian Usually arrested.

Oerdin? Not quite as bad.
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Old 02-28-2008, 10:37 PM   #10
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Originally posted by Arrian
Fair enough. No one. I don't think it's a grave distortion of your position, though (just a minor distortion ).



Interesting. I was hoping for more than an anecdote, though. We need Donegeal...

-Arrian Driving without a license is a crime, hence you are usually arrested for it. This is so obvious I wonder if you are even old enough to drive, or to do a simple google search
http://www.cga.ct.gov/2006/rpt/2006-R-0072.htm

Usually not arrested here, but you guys do things differently. Yes crime is punished here
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Old 02-28-2008, 11:04 PM   #11
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Originally posted by Wiglaf

Yes crime is punished here They get punished here as well. It would be perfect for you, they accept credit cards.
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Old 02-28-2008, 11:18 PM   #12
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Alberto is a republican, he was undoubtedly screwing male pages in airport restrooms and he will undoubtedly be begging for it in prison. By definition.
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Old 02-29-2008, 12:23 AM   #13
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Originally posted by Arrian
We need Donegeal... QFT!!!

Driving without a valid DL is an arrestable crime, but is not required. In this instance, although she did not have a valid DL, she did have a valid ID. Since the officer could confirm who she was, there was no need to arrest her.

Now if she (or anyone for that matter) could not produce a valid ID to confirm who she was, then she should have been brought in. Its all about being able to identify someone. A wants and warrants check is a large part of what takes an officer so long to get back to you after taking your DL/ID back to his squad. No ID, no check. No check, hold until they are cleared (pending what the charge is).

The officer did nothing wrong in letting her go.

In DD account, 'threatened' is a very vague term. I'm sure he can clarify, but simply stating that "Driving without a valid DL is an arrestable offense." has been confused with a threat when it could have been merely informational.
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Old 02-29-2008, 02:19 AM   #14
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Originally posted by Donegeal


QFT!!!

Driving without a valid DL is an arrestable crime, but is not required. In this instance, although she did not have a valid DL, she did have a valid ID. Since the officer could confirm who she was, there was no need to arrest her.

Now if she (or anyone for that matter) could not produce a valid ID to confirm who she was, then she should have been brought in. Its all about being able to identify someone. A wants and warrants check is a large part of what takes an officer so long to get back to you after taking your DL/ID back to his squad. No ID, no check. No check, hold until they are cleared (pending what the charge is).

The officer did nothing wrong in letting her go.

In DD account, 'threatened' is a very vague term. I'm sure he can clarify, but simply stating that "Driving without a valid DL is an arrestable offense." has been confused with a threat when it could have been merely informational. This is ridiculous, you didn't read the whole story. In 2006 she drove into someone's yard without a license and was only ticketed. This is a clear problem because she gave a false name. THIS IS WHY YOU ARREST PEOPLE WITH NO LICENSE OR A SUSPENDED LICENSE. If they are not qualified to drive and/or cannot definitively ID themselves, they go to jail.

I have no idea where you are a cop -- perhaps they do it this way in the boonies, but in the real world, driving without a license/suspended license is punishable by about a month in jail and a suspended license for a year. It is when cops make dumb judgments like this one in the story (and like you apparently do all the time) that crap like this happens.
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Old 02-29-2008, 02:39 AM   #15
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US already has 1 out of every 100 in jail, what's a few more?
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Old 02-29-2008, 02:48 AM   #16
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As Donegeal already pointed out (and you ignored) they will be arrested if they have no other ID.
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Old 02-29-2008, 02:55 AM   #17
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For your information, I do not just let people go when they were driving without a valid DL. My department has a policy that requires everyone issued a traffic citation of this type to be arrested and booked into jail. Er, this contradicts what you say earlier in the post:

If they are not qualified to drive and/or cannot definitively ID themselves, they go to jail.


Corrected. That policy is correct. What you've been saying, and what the cop did in the OP is wrong.

Originally posted by Wezil
As Donegeal already pointed out (and you ignored) they will be arrested if they have no other ID. As he points out himself in his last post, they should be arrested if no license, regardless of whether they can produce a college ID or registration or whatever. Because they are more likely to be bogus, slow down the process, encourage people to drive without being qualified, etc.
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Old 02-29-2008, 03:56 AM   #18
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Originally posted by Asher
Oerdin? He's arguing the opposite side than I would.
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Old 02-29-2008, 04:44 AM   #19
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Originally posted by Arrian
Question (serious one):

If a person is pulled over and lacks a valid license, what happens? They get a ticket, right? Anything else? Is there followup? Is proving citizenship part of it? Does it even come into play?

What I'm getting at is whether or not the cop who cited her for driving w/o a license in 2006 really "failed to do his job." I'm not sure that's the case.

-Arrian In 2006, Oakland, Ca. had a Drunk Driving sting in Oakland. After the sting started, they were stopping cars with driver that did not have a valid driver licence, or insurance. After awhile they had so many cars, they did not know what to do, so they call downtown for instruction. Pat Brown was the Mayor at the time, and he instruction the police to let all of the unlicence drive go with their cars. However someone in the PD call the press and told them what happen and of course the press call Brown. He told the press it was not the job of his PD to fine out if the driver were illegal or not. The PD did stop a number of Drunk Drive that night and they were arrested.
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Old 02-29-2008, 07:16 AM   #20
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I don't understand the name throwing at him, considering he is clearly right here. Donegeal especially is making things up that are in conflict with the story in the OP.
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