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Old 06-05-2007, 09:38 PM   #1
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It's all over the net, and DRM people are panicking. They're screwed!
there is an article on timesonline.co.uk
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Old 06-05-2007, 10:05 PM   #2
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read something about this on endgadget a few days back. :P
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Old 06-05-2007, 10:48 PM   #3
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What's this about??
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Old 06-05-2007, 11:01 PM   #4
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something about leaked hd-dvd key...i'm tech challenged so someone here ought to have a good understanding about this...
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Old 06-05-2007, 11:06 PM   #5
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hd dvd and blu-ray were deemed unhackable for piracy reasons. someone found a way in so you can make your own hd dvd movies. i tried to say it as simple as possible for the non tech people out there.
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Old 06-06-2007, 12:49 AM   #6
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DRM's, it locks your DVD reader from reading it if it doesn't contain the proper algorithm. It's found on video game systems as well.
Thing is these keys are illegal to post to the public. Dish Network, D+, TvCabo or anything Nagravision has been hacked for a long time. You can talk about it in the forums but you can't post the keys for the hack or at least not in the countries where the keys have ownership in.
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Old 06-06-2007, 12:50 AM   #7
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Basically, what was leaked was an encryption key that, if used properly, can unlock every current HD-DVD and Blu-Ray movie. For the layman, it doesn't mean jack-squat. But for the people that actually know what it does and how to use it, it was a big deal. It is interesting to note that a few years ago, the EXACT same thing happened with the DVD-CSS encryption system. The companies behind the DRM got all flustered, similar to now, and in the end they were forced to give up. You would think the company's would have learned, but they're still bent on suppressing the AACS key.
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Old 06-06-2007, 01:17 AM   #8
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Anyone else watch the Digg rebellion, it was pretty cool. I was just checking up on Digg when I noticed the first page was filled with protests against Digg for taking off the keys. As the night went on it got worst with the first four pages filled with it in some pretty creative and funny ways. Eventually Kevin Rose the guy that started it said that they will allow the keys now and will face the consequences if it comes to that. The whole affair made it onto a lot of news sites.
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/not...2.php
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Old 06-06-2007, 04:01 AM   #9
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Issues with copyrighted material are just going to get worse and worse. It's just so hard to police it. People will find a way...well maybe not so much with DirecTV and its P-card, but still. Look at youtube...if one can't find dailyshow on there, they don't dispair since there are tons of other sites which will post it.
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Old 06-06-2007, 04:29 AM   #10
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Quote, originally posted by Roadster44 »Issues with copyrighted material are just going to get worse and worse. It's just so hard to police it. People will find a way...well maybe not so much with DirecTV and its P-card, but still. Look at youtube...if one can't find dailyshow on there, they don't dispair since there are tons of other sites which will post it.
DirectTV cards have all been hacked. It just takes time. They're lucky they use mpeg 1.5, don't use DVB protocol and their encryption system is very rare to find outside of the country. Or you can bet the farm is would have been publicly hacked.
Everything can be hacked, everything.
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Old 06-06-2007, 04:54 AM   #11
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here's a small part of the txt file from the hd-dvd backup kit...
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B a c k u p H D - D V D F A Q V 1 . 0 0

-Who are you?
Just an ordinary guy, who like cryptography and don't like DRM.
-What is "Backup HDDVD" for?
It can do backup copies of HD DVD movies that YOU OWN! I don't want anyone to do
piracy here! This software is a good way to protect your investment, because I have
notice that this type of media seems very fragile, if it's scratched a little or
dirty, it won't play. It seems less tolerant than DVD format. (Higher density!)
And, if like me you don't have a HDCP video card and monitor, it's a good way for
you to enjoy full HD quality on your HD monitor. When a movie is decrypted, the player
will "accept" to play it on your hardware even you don't have HDCP.

-What "Backup HDDVD" is doing exactly?
This is a java based command line utility that decrypt video files (.evo) from a
HD DVD disk that you own, to your hard drive and you can play them back with a
HD DVD player software.
-What are the system requirements to use "Backup HDDVD"
1 - A Windows based system
2 - A HDDVD disk drive
3 - A HDDVD player software (like PowerDVD)
4 - A HDDVD movie(s)
5 - Java runtime 1.5
6 - The possibility to access the content of the disk with a drive letter under windows.
(you may need UDF 2.5 file system driver for this)
7 - A lot of free hard disk space to backup your movies!
Looks like this software will work on Linux and MS only.
Also seems they can change the keys on upcomong DVD's but these guys know where to look for the keys on the disk so it doesn't matter.
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